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<blockquote data-quote="OpsKT" data-source="post: 7648197" data-attributes="member: 70780"><p>I was not being rude. What I was is surprised that in response to a review that is given (on a good product, I make no bones about that) that mentions the waste of packing material, and a thread that gets multiple comments on that, <em>that Erik comes here and acts surprised.</em> Unless they never thought to ask WizKids about the packaging at all, they had to have signed off on the design at least once (as it uses Paizo IP in the logo designs). Even he admits it's a big pile, in a way that almost sounds like, <em>"Wow, more than I was expecting."</em> That may not have been his intent, but it sounded like it. </p><p></p><p>No more than my intent was just to point out that that has been the preferred method pf packing singles for WizKids since day one. <em>Singles.</em> This is not a starter set or theme pack, so the other standard methods of WizKids packing does not apply here. If they still use that much packing on the theme sets when they come out, then we have a whole different conversation to have. But for now it is singles, and using the same packing methods as Clix <em>for no good apparent reason.</em></p><p></p><p>Second note on this, single Clix cost more than a single Pathfinder mini because the Clix have multiple moving parts. Yet these are almost the same cost, and I am pretty sure that Pathfinder as a license does not get as much as DC or Marvel. So why the same cost? </p><p></p><p>And yes, I was aware they sold out. <em>So did the first run of DDM.</em> Long term, however, that model became unsustainable. It was short term <em>profit</em>, but not necessarily long term <em>value</em>, and I do give Paizo credit for trying to build long term value for both the company and its customers. But right now it looks like they are doing the exact same path as DDM, except less minis at a higher cost (as pointed out by others here) and we all know how DDM ended for WotC. Paizo might use similar models, but they overcame D&D/WotC in sales by doing different things with that model. So, why would they follow almost the same path as WotC in minis? </p><p></p><p>What I am saying is, if they have a different model planned, it would be good to use it sooner than later, because long term now, it looks very iffy.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="OpsKT, post: 7648197, member: 70780"] I was not being rude. What I was is surprised that in response to a review that is given (on a good product, I make no bones about that) that mentions the waste of packing material, and a thread that gets multiple comments on that, [i]that Erik comes here and acts surprised.[/i] Unless they never thought to ask WizKids about the packaging at all, they had to have signed off on the design at least once (as it uses Paizo IP in the logo designs). Even he admits it's a big pile, in a way that almost sounds like, [i]"Wow, more than I was expecting."[/i] That may not have been his intent, but it sounded like it. No more than my intent was just to point out that that has been the preferred method pf packing singles for WizKids since day one. [i]Singles.[/i] This is not a starter set or theme pack, so the other standard methods of WizKids packing does not apply here. If they still use that much packing on the theme sets when they come out, then we have a whole different conversation to have. But for now it is singles, and using the same packing methods as Clix [i]for no good apparent reason.[/i] Second note on this, single Clix cost more than a single Pathfinder mini because the Clix have multiple moving parts. Yet these are almost the same cost, and I am pretty sure that Pathfinder as a license does not get as much as DC or Marvel. So why the same cost? And yes, I was aware they sold out. [i]So did the first run of DDM.[/i] Long term, however, that model became unsustainable. It was short term [i]profit[/i], but not necessarily long term [i]value[/i], and I do give Paizo credit for trying to build long term value for both the company and its customers. But right now it looks like they are doing the exact same path as DDM, except less minis at a higher cost (as pointed out by others here) and we all know how DDM ended for WotC. Paizo might use similar models, but they overcame D&D/WotC in sales by doing different things with that model. So, why would they follow almost the same path as WotC in minis? What I am saying is, if they have a different model planned, it would be good to use it sooner than later, because long term now, it looks very iffy. [/QUOTE]
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