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<blockquote data-quote="hamishspence" data-source="post: 4982444" data-attributes="member: 41555"><p><strong>Allosaurus</strong></p><p></p><p>I agree on <em>Allosaurus fragilis</em> (Average specimen) being large though.</p><p> </p><p><em>Allosaurus fragilis- </em>average adult size- 28 ft long</p><p><em>Allosaurus fragilis</em>- maximum normal adult size- 33 ft long</p><p> </p><p><em>Allosaurus amplexus-</em> sometimes called <em>Epanterius</em>, sometimes called a giant specimen of <em>Allosaurus fragilis</em>, is the only form of <em>Allosaurus</em> that might possibly qualify- at 39-40 ft long.</p><p> </p><p>The point I was making- is that it's not out of the norm, to give theropods reach as if they were humanoids of the same size. </p><p> </p><p>They may not have long arms with a weapon held in them, but they do have long bodies, held horizontally- extending their reach compared to your normal Huge quadruped creature.</p><p> </p><p>The MM2 3.0 <em>Allosaurus</em> actually had a 10x10 ft Space but 15 ft reach, as did the D20 Modern <em>T. rex</em>.</p><p> </p><p>Upgrading the Space to the normal one for Huge creatures, but leaving the Reach where it is- helps expand Huge Size a little, allowing most of the big theropods (excepting <em>Spinosaurus</em>) to fit into the size their weight would suggest is right for them. </p><p> </p><p>(weight estimates are always iffy, but there was a news article that suggested that most weights need to be revised downward- so it is highly unlikely that there are any theropods weighing around 16 tons- minimum for Gargantuan)</p><p> </p><p>Concerning Spinosaurus- three specimens are known- </p><p> </p><p>the old destroyed one- estimated 5 ft skull, nose to tail length 46 ft.</p><p>the new one discovered by Dal Sasso- 6 ft skull (based on comparisons)- and body length estimated between 52 and 59 ft</p><p>and another recently discovered subadult specimen- 5 ft skull, 46 ft long.</p><p> </p><p>While these are all based on rather scanty material- they do make it clear that it was one big animal.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hamishspence, post: 4982444, member: 41555"] [b]Allosaurus[/b] I agree on [I]Allosaurus fragilis[/I] (Average specimen) being large though. [I]Allosaurus fragilis- [/I]average adult size- 28 ft long [I]Allosaurus fragilis[/I]- maximum normal adult size- 33 ft long [I]Allosaurus amplexus-[/I] sometimes called [I]Epanterius[/I], sometimes called a giant specimen of [I]Allosaurus fragilis[/I], is the only form of [I]Allosaurus[/I] that might possibly qualify- at 39-40 ft long. The point I was making- is that it's not out of the norm, to give theropods reach as if they were humanoids of the same size. They may not have long arms with a weapon held in them, but they do have long bodies, held horizontally- extending their reach compared to your normal Huge quadruped creature. The MM2 3.0 [I]Allosaurus[/I] actually had a 10x10 ft Space but 15 ft reach, as did the D20 Modern [I]T. rex[/I]. Upgrading the Space to the normal one for Huge creatures, but leaving the Reach where it is- helps expand Huge Size a little, allowing most of the big theropods (excepting [I]Spinosaurus[/I]) to fit into the size their weight would suggest is right for them. (weight estimates are always iffy, but there was a news article that suggested that most weights need to be revised downward- so it is highly unlikely that there are any theropods weighing around 16 tons- minimum for Gargantuan) Concerning Spinosaurus- three specimens are known- the old destroyed one- estimated 5 ft skull, nose to tail length 46 ft. the new one discovered by Dal Sasso- 6 ft skull (based on comparisons)- and body length estimated between 52 and 59 ft and another recently discovered subadult specimen- 5 ft skull, 46 ft long. While these are all based on rather scanty material- they do make it clear that it was one big animal. [/QUOTE]
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