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<blockquote data-quote="hamishspence" data-source="post: 4983076" data-attributes="member: 41555"><p><strong>Size</strong></p><p></p><p>So, Huge for normal sized specimens of:</p><p> </p><p><em>T. rex</em></p><p><em>Carcharodontosaurus</em></p><p><em>Epanterias (Allosaurus amplexus)</em></p><p><em>Giganotosaurus</em></p><p> </p><p>etc, and Gargantuan for advanced versions? That would be more workable.</p><p> </p><p>Maybe reserve the Tall category for ones with an unusual stance, like <em>Therizinosaurus</em>.</p><p> </p><p>The main reason for splitting the two sizes was for ones that, while both being, say, 30 ft or less and well under 2 tonnes in weight, </p><p> </p><p>was that I see a 20 ft 1100 pound dinosaur, as being small enough, to need a different Reach, from a 30 ft 2000 pound dinosaur.</p><p> </p><p>I think <em>Allosaurus fragilis</em> (normal specimen) should be Large Long Reach, rather than Huge Long Reach, as MM2 3.5 errata stats it out as.</p><p> </p><p>It may be odd for 3.5 to do some theropod bipeds as Long Reach, but its an interesting way of handling it.</p><p> </p><p>Given that the 10 ton estimates are tending to be revised downward to more like 8 tons or less, even for the largest <em>T. rex</em>, </p><p> </p><p><a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/dinosaurs/4884881/Tyrannosaurus-Rex-was-a-lean-mean-hunter.html" target="_blank">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/dinosaurs/4884881/Tyrannosaurus-Rex-was-a-lean-mean-hunter.html</a></p><p> </p><p>I figured reintroducing Long Reach as per MM2, made more sense- and maybe not having them advance out of their size categories.</p><p> </p><p>Unless it seems essential.</p><p> </p><p>My version:</p><p><em>Austrolovenator</em>- 10 ft space, 5 ft reach</p><p><em>Allosaurus fragilis</em>- 10 ft space, 10 ft reach</p><p><em>Saurophagnax</em>- 15 ft space, 10 ft reach</p><p><em>Tyrannosaurus rex-</em> 15 ft space, 15 ft reach</p><p><em>Spinosaurus</em>- 20 ft space, 20 ft reach</p><p> </p><p>Most theropods aren't going to cross the size line anyway- </p><p>a 39 ft adult T.rex and a 45 ft outsized adult T.rex are both going to be Huge 15 ft reach- better for the smaller ones to have a very slightly excessive reach, than for the big ones to be vastly underweight and under-reach for their size.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hamishspence, post: 4983076, member: 41555"] [b]Size[/b] So, Huge for normal sized specimens of: [I]T. rex[/I] [I]Carcharodontosaurus[/I] [I]Epanterias (Allosaurus amplexus)[/I] [I]Giganotosaurus[/I] etc, and Gargantuan for advanced versions? That would be more workable. Maybe reserve the Tall category for ones with an unusual stance, like [I]Therizinosaurus[/I]. The main reason for splitting the two sizes was for ones that, while both being, say, 30 ft or less and well under 2 tonnes in weight, was that I see a 20 ft 1100 pound dinosaur, as being small enough, to need a different Reach, from a 30 ft 2000 pound dinosaur. I think [I]Allosaurus fragilis[/I] (normal specimen) should be Large Long Reach, rather than Huge Long Reach, as MM2 3.5 errata stats it out as. It may be odd for 3.5 to do some theropod bipeds as Long Reach, but its an interesting way of handling it. Given that the 10 ton estimates are tending to be revised downward to more like 8 tons or less, even for the largest [I]T. rex[/I], [URL]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/dinosaurs/4884881/Tyrannosaurus-Rex-was-a-lean-mean-hunter.html[/URL] I figured reintroducing Long Reach as per MM2, made more sense- and maybe not having them advance out of their size categories. Unless it seems essential. My version: [I]Austrolovenator[/I]- 10 ft space, 5 ft reach [I]Allosaurus fragilis[/I]- 10 ft space, 10 ft reach [I]Saurophagnax[/I]- 15 ft space, 10 ft reach [I]Tyrannosaurus rex-[/I] 15 ft space, 15 ft reach [I]Spinosaurus[/I]- 20 ft space, 20 ft reach Most theropods aren't going to cross the size line anyway- a 39 ft adult T.rex and a 45 ft outsized adult T.rex are both going to be Huge 15 ft reach- better for the smaller ones to have a very slightly excessive reach, than for the big ones to be vastly underweight and under-reach for their size. [/QUOTE]
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