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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 4985199" data-attributes="member: 57383"><p>Contrariwise, I imagine Reach as representing how far away a creature can </p><p> attack opponents from its 'rest' position. Thus, I think of a Huge pulp Tyrannosaurus as standing in a smaller area (a 10 by 10 foot Space), but when it lunges forward to bite it can lean down to be parallel to the ground, stretch out its neck and take a step forward, allowing it to attack a long distance from its Space. A more realistic 'horizontal' Tyrannosaur, by contrast, can only stretch out its neck and take a step, so wouldn't get as much distance on a strike.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>I was going to suggest that too, with 'Clawed Carnosaurs' for the fast-running big clawed types such as <em>Neovenator</em>. I think there's enough functional differences between the two to give them different D&D stats - Spinosaurs were probably a bit slower and had teeth & jaws better suited for securing small, struggling prey than Neovenator's more allosauroid slashing/serrated teeth. We can hypothesize the latter were better adapted for chasing down fleet medium-small prey than a Spinosaurs.</p><p> </p><p>Furthermore, I was toying with the idea of splitting Spinosaurs into regular (most of them) and robust varieties (basically <em>Baryonyx</em>, which seems significantly sturdier than an average Spiny). Maybe easier just to treat <em>Baryonyx</em> as an exception.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>I think we can consider them adequately represented by Standard Carnosaurs and Abelisaurs.</p><p></p><p>We could probably do with coming up with other 'generic' names than Abelisaurs and the other categories we're still using the scientific terms for - Shortfaced Carnosaurs for Abelisaurs? Tyrant Carnosaurs for regular Tyrannosaurs and Gracile Tyrants for Albertosaurus types?</p><p></p><p>Not sure what would be a good term for Spinosaurus-types. 'Fishing Carnosaurs' is inaccurate, since they're a more generalist feeder.</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>Myself, I'd put Old Laelaps in Clawed Carnosaur, since it appears to be a swift, agile runner with an oversized hand-claw. That, and it'd be a good fit with the famous Charles Knight painting.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 4985199, member: 57383"] Contrariwise, I imagine Reach as representing how far away a creature can attack opponents from its 'rest' position. Thus, I think of a Huge pulp Tyrannosaurus as standing in a smaller area (a 10 by 10 foot Space), but when it lunges forward to bite it can lean down to be parallel to the ground, stretch out its neck and take a step forward, allowing it to attack a long distance from its Space. A more realistic 'horizontal' Tyrannosaur, by contrast, can only stretch out its neck and take a step, so wouldn't get as much distance on a strike. I was going to suggest that too, with 'Clawed Carnosaurs' for the fast-running big clawed types such as [I]Neovenator[/I]. I think there's enough functional differences between the two to give them different D&D stats - Spinosaurs were probably a bit slower and had teeth & jaws better suited for securing small, struggling prey than Neovenator's more allosauroid slashing/serrated teeth. We can hypothesize the latter were better adapted for chasing down fleet medium-small prey than a Spinosaurs. Furthermore, I was toying with the idea of splitting Spinosaurs into regular (most of them) and robust varieties (basically [I]Baryonyx[/I], which seems significantly sturdier than an average Spiny). Maybe easier just to treat [I]Baryonyx[/I] as an exception. I think we can consider them adequately represented by Standard Carnosaurs and Abelisaurs. We could probably do with coming up with other 'generic' names than Abelisaurs and the other categories we're still using the scientific terms for - Shortfaced Carnosaurs for Abelisaurs? Tyrant Carnosaurs for regular Tyrannosaurs and Gracile Tyrants for Albertosaurus types? Not sure what would be a good term for Spinosaurus-types. 'Fishing Carnosaurs' is inaccurate, since they're a more generalist feeder. Myself, I'd put Old Laelaps in Clawed Carnosaur, since it appears to be a swift, agile runner with an oversized hand-claw. That, and it'd be a good fit with the famous Charles Knight painting. [/QUOTE]
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