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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 4985238" data-attributes="member: 57383"><p>My preference would be to go smaller than that, to allow for self-sufficient juveniles (I think it's probably that at least some theropods were highly precocious, hunting for themselves shortly after hatching). It would also allow for hypothetical undiscovered smaller species - there may be lots of species we haven't found fossils of.</p><p> </p><p>Also, what about Herrerasaurs? Those primitive theropods would probably fit quite well in either Classic or Gracile Carnosaur, but they're not very big (6-20 feet).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think we've got those pretty well covered with the current categories, except for the Short-Armed Raptors. I'll add one in.</p><p> </p><p>Speaking of raptors, the current category list could do adding 'Flapping Raptors' with well developed arm feathers. Maybe posit them as tree or cliff dwellers, with a racial bonus to Climb or an actual climb speed, with some genera (e.g. <em>Microraptor</em>) even capable of limited flight.</p><p></p><p>EDIT: Here's a revised theropod category list:</p><p></p><p><strong>Standard Carnosaur</strong>s (e.g. <em>Allosaurus</em>) - largish, fairly fast, slashing bite, medium-sized claws. Includes other Allosauridae up to the size of <em>Giganotosaurus</em>. We could probably lump Ceratosaurs in here as far as their stats go.</p><p> <strong>Gracile Carnosaur</strong>s (e.g. <em>Dilophosaurus</em>) - slim, fast, smallish head, medium-small claws.</p><p> <strong>Clawed Carnosaurs </strong>(e.g. <em>Megaraptor</em>) - Carnivorous theropods with unusually large arms & claws and smallish heads with slashing teeth. Swift and gracile, may have chased down agile prey.</p><p><strong>Crocodile Carnosaurs </strong>(e.g. <em>Spinosaurus</em>) Largish arms and claws. Slim jaws with pointed teeth for wriggling prey. may be piscovores.<em>Baryonyx</em>may be a robust version. <strong>[<span style="color: Red"><em>not sure I like the name, but it's better than 'Fishing Carnosaurs'</em></span>]</strong></p><p><strong>Short-Faced Carnosaurs </strong>(e.g. <em>Abelisaurus</em>) - slow but powerful, short skull may have allowed for a pit-bull like wrestling with larger prey animals, tiny arms.</p><p> <strong>Tyrant Kings</strong> (e.g. <em>Tyrannosaurus</em>) - large & strong, bigger brains, powerful crushing & tearing bite, tiny claws.</p><p> <strong>Gracile Tyrants </strong>(e.g. <em>Albertosaurus</em>) - faster than the above, with less powerful jaws.</p><p><strong>'Raptors'</strong> (e.g. <em>Deinonychus</em>) - fast & agile, well armed with claws, talons & teeth. <strong>[<span style="color: Red"><em>Maybe call them Terror Claws?</em></span>]</strong></p><p> <strong>Gracile Raptors</strong> (e.g. <em>Troodon</em>) - slimmer and faster than above, but not as strong.</p><p><strong>Short-Armed Raptors</strong> (e.g. <em>Austroraptor</em>). Unusually small arms and slim jaws. Maybe particularly fast pursuers of small prey?</p><p><strong>Flapping Raptors</strong> (e.g. <em>Unenlagia</em>, <em>Microraptor</em>). Very small, with wings or winglike forearms. Some may have had limited flight, maybe good climbers that lived on trees or cliffs.</p><p><strong>Beaked Raptors</strong> (e.g. <em>Oviraptor</em>) - small, fast, medium claws, beaked. Maybe omnivores. <strong>[<span style="color: Red"><em>I decided to drop 'Oviraptor' since calling them 'egg thieves' would give the wrong impression of their habits</em></span>]</strong></p><p><strong></strong><strong>Scythe Claws</strong> (e.g. <em>Therizinosaurus</em>) - bizarre barrel-bodied theropods with huge claws. Probably herbivores.</p><p> <strong>Ostrich Mimics</strong> (e.g. <em>Ornithomimus</em>) - fast, with long 3-clawed arms but a negligible peck. Maybe omnivores.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 4985238, member: 57383"] My preference would be to go smaller than that, to allow for self-sufficient juveniles (I think it's probably that at least some theropods were highly precocious, hunting for themselves shortly after hatching). It would also allow for hypothetical undiscovered smaller species - there may be lots of species we haven't found fossils of. Also, what about Herrerasaurs? Those primitive theropods would probably fit quite well in either Classic or Gracile Carnosaur, but they're not very big (6-20 feet). I think we've got those pretty well covered with the current categories, except for the Short-Armed Raptors. I'll add one in. Speaking of raptors, the current category list could do adding 'Flapping Raptors' with well developed arm feathers. Maybe posit them as tree or cliff dwellers, with a racial bonus to Climb or an actual climb speed, with some genera (e.g. [I]Microraptor[/I]) even capable of limited flight. EDIT: Here's a revised theropod category list: [B]Standard Carnosaur[/B]s (e.g. [I]Allosaurus[/I]) - largish, fairly fast, slashing bite, medium-sized claws. Includes other Allosauridae up to the size of [I]Giganotosaurus[/I]. We could probably lump Ceratosaurs in here as far as their stats go. [B]Gracile Carnosaur[/B]s (e.g. [I]Dilophosaurus[/I]) - slim, fast, smallish head, medium-small claws. [B]Clawed Carnosaurs [/B](e.g. [I]Megaraptor[/I]) - Carnivorous theropods with unusually large arms & claws and smallish heads with slashing teeth. Swift and gracile, may have chased down agile prey. [B]Crocodile Carnosaurs [/B](e.g. [I]Spinosaurus[/I]) Largish arms and claws. Slim jaws with pointed teeth for wriggling prey. may be piscovores.[I]Baryonyx[/I]may be a robust version. [B][[COLOR=Red][I]not sure I like the name, but it's better than 'Fishing Carnosaurs'[/I][/COLOR]][/B] [B]Short-Faced Carnosaurs [/B](e.g. [I]Abelisaurus[/I]) - slow but powerful, short skull may have allowed for a pit-bull like wrestling with larger prey animals, tiny arms. [B]Tyrant Kings[/B] (e.g. [I]Tyrannosaurus[/I]) - large & strong, bigger brains, powerful crushing & tearing bite, tiny claws. [B]Gracile Tyrants [/B](e.g. [I]Albertosaurus[/I]) - faster than the above, with less powerful jaws. [B]'Raptors'[/B] (e.g. [I]Deinonychus[/I]) - fast & agile, well armed with claws, talons & teeth. [B][[COLOR=Red][I]Maybe call them Terror Claws?[/I][/COLOR]][/B] [B]Gracile Raptors[/B] (e.g. [I]Troodon[/I]) - slimmer and faster than above, but not as strong. [B]Short-Armed Raptors[/B] (e.g. [I]Austroraptor[/I]). Unusually small arms and slim jaws. Maybe particularly fast pursuers of small prey? [B]Flapping Raptors[/B] (e.g. [I]Unenlagia[/I], [I]Microraptor[/I]). Very small, with wings or winglike forearms. Some may have had limited flight, maybe good climbers that lived on trees or cliffs. [B]Beaked Raptors[/B] (e.g. [I]Oviraptor[/I]) - small, fast, medium claws, beaked. Maybe omnivores. [B][[COLOR=Red][I]I decided to drop 'Oviraptor' since calling them 'egg thieves' would give the wrong impression of their habits[/I][/COLOR]] [/B][B]Scythe Claws[/B] (e.g. [I]Therizinosaurus[/I]) - bizarre barrel-bodied theropods with huge claws. Probably herbivores. [B]Ostrich Mimics[/B] (e.g. [I]Ornithomimus[/I]) - fast, with long 3-clawed arms but a negligible peck. Maybe omnivores. [/QUOTE]
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