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<blockquote data-quote="hamishspence" data-source="post: 4986071" data-attributes="member: 41555"><p><strong>3.5 and Colosaal</strong></p><p></p><p>3.5 statblocks do (sometimes) allow for Colossal creatures with a Space larger than 30 ft.</p><p> </p><p>the 3.5 revision to Epic Handbook, gives the devastation vermin, and the biggest Abomination, a 50 ft space.</p><p> </p><p>Elder Evils gives the advanced Aspect of the Leviathan a 60 ft Space.</p><p> </p><p>But otherwise, they follow the normal Colossal rules.</p><p> </p><p>Remember that the body of the creature, if placed on a Gargantuan or Colossal base, will only take up a fairly small portion- so it's neck reach will be less than its total neck length. <em>Supersaurus</em> and <em>Barosaurus</em> might have slightly extended neck reach.</p><p> </p><p>also- the larger specimens of <em>Diplodocus</em> (<em>Diplodocus hallorum</em>, AKA <em>Seismosaurus),</em> may have weighed a bit more than 16 tons.</p><p> </p><p>The original WoTC thread gives Apatosaurus a Gargantuan size- which is reasonable, given that adults were between 70 and 80 ft long.</p><p> </p><p>One of the things that might cause all the size disputes- is that base size advances slower than height does- </p><p>6 ft creature on a 5 ft base is a middle of the height-range Medium biped.</p><p>48 ft creature on a 20 ft base is a middle of the height-range Gargantuan biped.</p><p> </p><p>result- it looks cramped.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hamishspence, post: 4986071, member: 41555"] [b]3.5 and Colosaal[/b] 3.5 statblocks do (sometimes) allow for Colossal creatures with a Space larger than 30 ft. the 3.5 revision to Epic Handbook, gives the devastation vermin, and the biggest Abomination, a 50 ft space. Elder Evils gives the advanced Aspect of the Leviathan a 60 ft Space. But otherwise, they follow the normal Colossal rules. Remember that the body of the creature, if placed on a Gargantuan or Colossal base, will only take up a fairly small portion- so it's neck reach will be less than its total neck length. [I]Supersaurus[/I] and [I]Barosaurus[/I] might have slightly extended neck reach. also- the larger specimens of [I]Diplodocus[/I] ([I]Diplodocus hallorum[/I], AKA [I]Seismosaurus),[/I] may have weighed a bit more than 16 tons. The original WoTC thread gives Apatosaurus a Gargantuan size- which is reasonable, given that adults were between 70 and 80 ft long. One of the things that might cause all the size disputes- is that base size advances slower than height does- 6 ft creature on a 5 ft base is a middle of the height-range Medium biped. 48 ft creature on a 20 ft base is a middle of the height-range Gargantuan biped. result- it looks cramped. [/QUOTE]
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