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<blockquote data-quote="hamishspence" data-source="post: 4987355" data-attributes="member: 41555"><p><strong>Big, bulky, short-necked sauropods</strong></p><p></p><p>Some sauropods (<em>Barapasaurus</em>, possibly <em>Paralititan</em>) have a big, chunky body, a very high weight, and a relatively short neck and tail.</p><p> </p><p>At 60 ft long and 48 tonnes-odd in weight, <em>Barapasaurus</em> should be 20 ft Bite Reach, 20 ft Tail Slap Reach, 20 ft Space.</p><p> </p><p>The "short neck and tail" group- with all three being the same length- would possibly cover quite a few sauropods, from the early, to the late.</p><p> </p><p><em>Camerasaurus</em> is listed as only 59 ft long- and has both a short neck, and a (fairly) short tail- yet is fairly heavy at around 18 tonnes.</p><p> </p><p>So, maybe there should be a group of chunky sauropods- ranging from 30 ft Large, to 45 ft Huge, to 60 ft Gargantuan (<em>Barapasaurus</em>) to 90 ft Colossal (<em>Paralititan</em>?)</p><p> </p><p>This might also work for brachiosaurs- tail reach being twice bite reach seems a bit much- especially since many have very long necks and very short tails (<em>Qiaowanlong</em>, <em>Giraffatitan</em>, <em>Sauroposeidon</em>). The high shoulders might restrict the bite reach- but not that much.</p><p> </p><p>Even <em>Brachiosaurus altithorax</em> does not look especially long-tailed- not when tail is compared to body length.</p><p> </p><p>Using the same formula as for Chunky Sauropods, would give: </p><p> </p><p>45 ft long for a Huge brachiosaur-type: <em>Qiaowanlong</em> or <em>Euhelopus,</em></p><p>60 ft for a Gargantuan one- like <em>Giraffatitan</em>, </p><p>and 90 ft for a Colossal one (<em>Sauroposeidon</em>).</p><p> </p><p>EDIT: While Wikipedia has since edited the Diplodocus and Amphicoelias entries- I managed to find a reference of mine in another thread, prior to the edit, that gave, for the original <em>Diplodocus carnegii</em> skeleton, a head/neck length of 22 ft, body length of 13 ft, tail length of 50 ft. This equates to 85 ft.</p><p> </p><p>Rounding down, after placing on a 15 ft base, and allowing for the curve of the spine and the wavy tail- the 20 ft Bite, 15 ft Space, 45 ft Tail Huge diplodocid, does seem to work- it is a little short, but not problematically so.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hamishspence, post: 4987355, member: 41555"] [b]Big, bulky, short-necked sauropods[/b] Some sauropods ([I]Barapasaurus[/I], possibly [I]Paralititan[/I]) have a big, chunky body, a very high weight, and a relatively short neck and tail. At 60 ft long and 48 tonnes-odd in weight, [I]Barapasaurus[/I] should be 20 ft Bite Reach, 20 ft Tail Slap Reach, 20 ft Space. The "short neck and tail" group- with all three being the same length- would possibly cover quite a few sauropods, from the early, to the late. [I]Camerasaurus[/I] is listed as only 59 ft long- and has both a short neck, and a (fairly) short tail- yet is fairly heavy at around 18 tonnes. So, maybe there should be a group of chunky sauropods- ranging from 30 ft Large, to 45 ft Huge, to 60 ft Gargantuan ([I]Barapasaurus[/I]) to 90 ft Colossal ([I]Paralititan[/I]?) This might also work for brachiosaurs- tail reach being twice bite reach seems a bit much- especially since many have very long necks and very short tails ([I]Qiaowanlong[/I], [I]Giraffatitan[/I], [I]Sauroposeidon[/I]). The high shoulders might restrict the bite reach- but not that much. Even [I]Brachiosaurus altithorax[/I] does not look especially long-tailed- not when tail is compared to body length. Using the same formula as for Chunky Sauropods, would give: 45 ft long for a Huge brachiosaur-type: [I]Qiaowanlong[/I] or [I]Euhelopus,[/I] 60 ft for a Gargantuan one- like [I]Giraffatitan[/I], and 90 ft for a Colossal one ([I]Sauroposeidon[/I]). EDIT: While Wikipedia has since edited the Diplodocus and Amphicoelias entries- I managed to find a reference of mine in another thread, prior to the edit, that gave, for the original [I]Diplodocus carnegii[/I] skeleton, a head/neck length of 22 ft, body length of 13 ft, tail length of 50 ft. This equates to 85 ft. Rounding down, after placing on a 15 ft base, and allowing for the curve of the spine and the wavy tail- the 20 ft Bite, 15 ft Space, 45 ft Tail Huge diplodocid, does seem to work- it is a little short, but not problematically so. [/QUOTE]
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