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<blockquote data-quote="justanobody" data-source="post: 4694494" data-attributes="member: 70778"><p>Well My Little Ponies and Dragons just wont work as a game. Even the Judeo-Christian attempt at D&D where the players are good, and anything they fight is evil, and you dont fight other good things has the idea founded in it that you are killing other creatures. Even the PHB has one creature beheading another. That right there throws "decency" out of the window in many contexts.</p><p></p><p>Just because the heavily Christian influence and morals within Chronicles of Narnia had people being killed.</p><p></p><p>Leaving the idea of religion alone but just as a book and what is decent to have in print, because I am not trying to start a religion discussion, but rather to show what would be the height of allowed decency in modern society....anything in The Bible is decent enough for print to most people, so it should be decent enough for D&D. Sorry, I don't know the Torah, Koran, etc to compare the things printed in them. But if it is decent enough to be printed in ANY religions holy scripture, then a game focused on "killing things and taking their stuff" would be silly to not consider them decent.</p><p></p><p>I know they are trying to avoid porn books and such, but decent doesn't totally remove everything that could get close, and mature need not include porn and excessive gore.</p><p></p><p>If HASBRO wants to make kiddy games, they can continue to print CandyLand for that audience and demographic, and need to understand that those games fade out, and there needs to be more than kiddy games, and family games. There are other demographics of which D&D and other RPGs and games gave those people something to do and spend their money on.</p><p></p><p>I think the idea is sound to protect IP form certain types of things, but they went mother hen and pecking the life out of anything that may contain a buzzword that might set some random person in [insert state or country here] into a hissy fit. Or just their lawyers in this law suit crazed country.</p><p></p><p>I think recent action has caused D&D to take a turn back to the late 90's and TSR is back in control, or at least the LW mentality. C&D's to fans that help promote the game? Well we all know what happened to TSR, and that is my final words on recent events and D&D.</p><p></p><p>The GSL will not help the gamers, the game, or the game makers still as it is. It will only keep around those people who are devoted to the company and will play anything that company makes. Plus some people that actually like the game. But the "brand" has been dilluted by WotC and the GSL and other thing that was worse than could have happened form any confusion OGL products or the like could have done.</p><p></p><p>Anyway. the whole HASBRO poking around making D&D some kid-ified game is just dumb. Lead me to the Rugby and Hockey versions of D&D, rather than the flag tag football version. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/ponder.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":hmm:" title="Hmmm :hmm:" data-shortname=":hmm:" /></p><p></p><p>I agree with Paizo, that redefining public domain terms is still overkill and overboard.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="justanobody, post: 4694494, member: 70778"] Well My Little Ponies and Dragons just wont work as a game. Even the Judeo-Christian attempt at D&D where the players are good, and anything they fight is evil, and you dont fight other good things has the idea founded in it that you are killing other creatures. Even the PHB has one creature beheading another. That right there throws "decency" out of the window in many contexts. Just because the heavily Christian influence and morals within Chronicles of Narnia had people being killed. Leaving the idea of religion alone but just as a book and what is decent to have in print, because I am not trying to start a religion discussion, but rather to show what would be the height of allowed decency in modern society....anything in The Bible is decent enough for print to most people, so it should be decent enough for D&D. Sorry, I don't know the Torah, Koran, etc to compare the things printed in them. But if it is decent enough to be printed in ANY religions holy scripture, then a game focused on "killing things and taking their stuff" would be silly to not consider them decent. I know they are trying to avoid porn books and such, but decent doesn't totally remove everything that could get close, and mature need not include porn and excessive gore. If HASBRO wants to make kiddy games, they can continue to print CandyLand for that audience and demographic, and need to understand that those games fade out, and there needs to be more than kiddy games, and family games. There are other demographics of which D&D and other RPGs and games gave those people something to do and spend their money on. I think the idea is sound to protect IP form certain types of things, but they went mother hen and pecking the life out of anything that may contain a buzzword that might set some random person in [insert state or country here] into a hissy fit. Or just their lawyers in this law suit crazed country. I think recent action has caused D&D to take a turn back to the late 90's and TSR is back in control, or at least the LW mentality. C&D's to fans that help promote the game? Well we all know what happened to TSR, and that is my final words on recent events and D&D. The GSL will not help the gamers, the game, or the game makers still as it is. It will only keep around those people who are devoted to the company and will play anything that company makes. Plus some people that actually like the game. But the "brand" has been dilluted by WotC and the GSL and other thing that was worse than could have happened form any confusion OGL products or the like could have done. Anyway. the whole HASBRO poking around making D&D some kid-ified game is just dumb. Lead me to the Rugby and Hockey versions of D&D, rather than the flag tag football version. :hmm: I agree with Paizo, that redefining public domain terms is still overkill and overboard. [/QUOTE]
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