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<blockquote data-quote="collin" data-source="post: 7484477" data-attributes="member: 6757"><p>I have been reading through some of the posts here and am amazed this conversation still seems highly discussed and debated. And in some cases, highly emotional. </p><p></p><p>In addition to players comparing ranger 5e to older versions they are used to versus new players who have no previous playing bias, there seems to be further disagreement on what is real (or true or official or canon) versus home-brew or unofficial. WotC could step in and create some official change, but they have already offered up options for free in UA. At this point, I tend to think any changes they would make would create as much dissatisfaction as the current version, i.e., it's a trap fraught with debate and complaints no matter what they do (or don't do). So after already offering up free alternatives, what would be their incentive to make an "official" change to the class? None, as far as I can see. They can wait until they come out with DnD 5.5e or 6th edition if they want to make changes, for which they will then reap $$ for doing so. </p><p></p><p>I personally have never felt like every single rule has to be from the tablets on the mountaintop. I think WotC fully realizes and expects that players will change some of the rules to suit their particular group or game. Rules are not necessarily made to be broken, but since this is an RPG and not international law, I don't think anyone's feathers are going to get ruffled if some players want to make some tweaks or changes to some RPG rules.</p><p></p><p>I am of the opinion the ranger class is not all that broken; it just needs a tweak. My one suggestion for players who still think the ranger class (I am not talking class sub-types here - that's a whole other discussion) itself is broken? Give the Ranger "Hunter's Mark" as a free spell (or ability) at 3rd or 4th level, like Horizon Walker gets Protection from Evil and Good for free at 3rd level. </p><p></p><p>If you don't like that, fine: make your own rules. If you don't like what WotC puts out, let your money do the talking and don't buy their stuff. I don't see it as any more complicated or frustrating than that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="collin, post: 7484477, member: 6757"] I have been reading through some of the posts here and am amazed this conversation still seems highly discussed and debated. And in some cases, highly emotional. In addition to players comparing ranger 5e to older versions they are used to versus new players who have no previous playing bias, there seems to be further disagreement on what is real (or true or official or canon) versus home-brew or unofficial. WotC could step in and create some official change, but they have already offered up options for free in UA. At this point, I tend to think any changes they would make would create as much dissatisfaction as the current version, i.e., it's a trap fraught with debate and complaints no matter what they do (or don't do). So after already offering up free alternatives, what would be their incentive to make an "official" change to the class? None, as far as I can see. They can wait until they come out with DnD 5.5e or 6th edition if they want to make changes, for which they will then reap $$ for doing so. I personally have never felt like every single rule has to be from the tablets on the mountaintop. I think WotC fully realizes and expects that players will change some of the rules to suit their particular group or game. Rules are not necessarily made to be broken, but since this is an RPG and not international law, I don't think anyone's feathers are going to get ruffled if some players want to make some tweaks or changes to some RPG rules. I am of the opinion the ranger class is not all that broken; it just needs a tweak. My one suggestion for players who still think the ranger class (I am not talking class sub-types here - that's a whole other discussion) itself is broken? Give the Ranger "Hunter's Mark" as a free spell (or ability) at 3rd or 4th level, like Horizon Walker gets Protection from Evil and Good for free at 3rd level. If you don't like that, fine: make your own rules. If you don't like what WotC puts out, let your money do the talking and don't buy their stuff. I don't see it as any more complicated or frustrating than that. [/QUOTE]
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