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<blockquote data-quote="Gradine" data-source="post: 7486348" data-attributes="member: 57112"><p>1) @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=2525" target="_blank">Mistwell</a></u></strong></em> has already covered the numerous ways in which various animal companions are "able to fight", just not in the meat-shield manner you seem to hold as the only way to accomplish this</p><p>2) At what point is "being able to take a hit" necessary to be engaged in a fight? My wizard buddy can't really take many hits either, after all.</p><p></p><p>Again, it is clear that you have a very precise expectation for what a Ranger's companion is supposed to be able to do. What is also clear (and the issue that is actually being discussed at the moment) is that there is nothing in the overall text of this current edition of D&D that would have reasonably given you that expectation with regards to the Beastmaster Ranger. You are instead relying on overly literal interpretations of this text (and the arguments of those responding to you) to try to make some obtuse semantic point. It is not working.</p><p></p><p>Again, @<em><strong><u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=2525" target="_blank">Mistwell</a></u></strong></em> has pointed out that there are plenty of places across the internet that have taken the impetus to build a Beastmaster more in line with your expectations, and that there's no immediate reason to think those efforts wouldn't be any worse than what the folks at WotC would surmise (especially given the level of opinion you and others in this thread appear to hold regarding the company and its employees) and they've already even offered a couple of suggestions themselves.</p><p></p><p>That said "failing to meet your specific expectations for the class" and "failing to meet the expectations presented within its own description" are two very different things. To say nothing of the gap between either of these and, say, "objectively broken at a fundamental level" for instance.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gradine, post: 7486348, member: 57112"] 1) @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=2525"]Mistwell[/URL][/U][/B][/I] has already covered the numerous ways in which various animal companions are "able to fight", just not in the meat-shield manner you seem to hold as the only way to accomplish this 2) At what point is "being able to take a hit" necessary to be engaged in a fight? My wizard buddy can't really take many hits either, after all. Again, it is clear that you have a very precise expectation for what a Ranger's companion is supposed to be able to do. What is also clear (and the issue that is actually being discussed at the moment) is that there is nothing in the overall text of this current edition of D&D that would have reasonably given you that expectation with regards to the Beastmaster Ranger. You are instead relying on overly literal interpretations of this text (and the arguments of those responding to you) to try to make some obtuse semantic point. It is not working. Again, @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=2525"]Mistwell[/URL][/U][/B][/I] has pointed out that there are plenty of places across the internet that have taken the impetus to build a Beastmaster more in line with your expectations, and that there's no immediate reason to think those efforts wouldn't be any worse than what the folks at WotC would surmise (especially given the level of opinion you and others in this thread appear to hold regarding the company and its employees) and they've already even offered a couple of suggestions themselves. That said "failing to meet your specific expectations for the class" and "failing to meet the expectations presented within its own description" are two very different things. To say nothing of the gap between either of these and, say, "objectively broken at a fundamental level" for instance. [/QUOTE]
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