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Ridding Elves and Half-Elves of Darkvision
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<blockquote data-quote="epithet" data-source="post: 7533155" data-attributes="member: 6796566"><p>I'll assume that you didn't mean for your post to come across as pompous and condescending as it did.</p><p></p><p>The issue isn't whether darkvision is less complicated than low light vision, because you apparently intend to keep darkvision in place for dwarves and other subterranean races. That makes the issue one of darkvision (one category) being less complicated that darkvision and low light vision both (two categories.) My point is that it is less complicated to have fewer categories. I would have thought that was obvious.</p><p></p><p>Regarding an ambush in the dark, sure... you can absolutely ambush in the dark. Once you have established the darkness, the ambush takes care of itself most of the time. If you would actually look at what I said, though, my point was that for a party lacking darkvision you would not have the darkness in the first place. People will have multiple light sources and will try to have the illumination extend out to typical encounter distances. In order to have an ambush in the dark, then, you first have to make it dark. However much effort you put into taking away the light sources could just as easily be used to add enough smoke, mist, rubble, etc. to provide cover or concealment to your ambushers, so nothing is gained by your insistence upon impenetrable darkness for some (but not all) of your PCs. Your "only darkness" approach is limiting.</p><p></p><p>I would suggest you worry less about your position being confused in the minds of third parties, and focus on your own understanding of the issue.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="epithet, post: 7533155, member: 6796566"] I'll assume that you didn't mean for your post to come across as pompous and condescending as it did. The issue isn't whether darkvision is less complicated than low light vision, because you apparently intend to keep darkvision in place for dwarves and other subterranean races. That makes the issue one of darkvision (one category) being less complicated that darkvision and low light vision both (two categories.) My point is that it is less complicated to have fewer categories. I would have thought that was obvious. Regarding an ambush in the dark, sure... you can absolutely ambush in the dark. Once you have established the darkness, the ambush takes care of itself most of the time. If you would actually look at what I said, though, my point was that for a party lacking darkvision you would not have the darkness in the first place. People will have multiple light sources and will try to have the illumination extend out to typical encounter distances. In order to have an ambush in the dark, then, you first have to make it dark. However much effort you put into taking away the light sources could just as easily be used to add enough smoke, mist, rubble, etc. to provide cover or concealment to your ambushers, so nothing is gained by your insistence upon impenetrable darkness for some (but not all) of your PCs. Your "only darkness" approach is limiting. I would suggest you worry less about your position being confused in the minds of third parties, and focus on your own understanding of the issue. [/QUOTE]
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