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<blockquote data-quote="ShinHakkaider" data-source="post: 6183283" data-attributes="member: 9213"><p>Okay, I understood and agreed with your first paragraph. </p><p></p><p>I understand what you are saying in the first sentence of the second paragraph. </p><p></p><p>After that you lose me completely. </p><p></p><p>Paul Verhoeven directed the first Robocop (1987) which was written by Ed Neumeier and Michael Miner. The movie was marketed and sold as a sci-fi actioner. The critics and audiences were surprised that it WAS more than that and a very keen and funny stab at 80's consumerism and the cold war mentality. It was ALWAYS an action film, just one with a very good social commentary. </p><p></p><p>I dont know what remake youre talking about. There were two sequels the first directed by Irwin Kirshner (The Empire Strikes Back) and based on a script by Frank Miller who had a cameo as the ill fated Frank the Chemist. It was passable but not great. The third movie directed by Fred Dekker (Monster Squad, NIght of the Creeps) was pretty awful. Verhoeven had nothing to do with either sequels as far as I know. </p><p></p><p>Sometimes I really dont understand my fellow movie lover. Robocop has two pretty VIOLENT Shootings in the first 40 min of the movie both of which pretty firmly set the tone of the action for the rest of the movie so at no point does it degenerate into typical action fare. It was consistent from the outset. The showdown between Murphy and Clarence and his guys was a build up that was going to and quite frankly needed to happen. And it was well executed and not without a few surprises of it's own. ("Sayanora ROBOCOP!!" *SHNIKT* *THUNK*)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ShinHakkaider, post: 6183283, member: 9213"] Okay, I understood and agreed with your first paragraph. I understand what you are saying in the first sentence of the second paragraph. After that you lose me completely. Paul Verhoeven directed the first Robocop (1987) which was written by Ed Neumeier and Michael Miner. The movie was marketed and sold as a sci-fi actioner. The critics and audiences were surprised that it WAS more than that and a very keen and funny stab at 80's consumerism and the cold war mentality. It was ALWAYS an action film, just one with a very good social commentary. I dont know what remake youre talking about. There were two sequels the first directed by Irwin Kirshner (The Empire Strikes Back) and based on a script by Frank Miller who had a cameo as the ill fated Frank the Chemist. It was passable but not great. The third movie directed by Fred Dekker (Monster Squad, NIght of the Creeps) was pretty awful. Verhoeven had nothing to do with either sequels as far as I know. Sometimes I really dont understand my fellow movie lover. Robocop has two pretty VIOLENT Shootings in the first 40 min of the movie both of which pretty firmly set the tone of the action for the rest of the movie so at no point does it degenerate into typical action fare. It was consistent from the outset. The showdown between Murphy and Clarence and his guys was a build up that was going to and quite frankly needed to happen. And it was well executed and not without a few surprises of it's own. ("Sayanora ROBOCOP!!" *SHNIKT* *THUNK*) [/QUOTE]
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