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<blockquote data-quote="kreynolds" data-source="post: 213088" data-attributes="member: 2829"><p>Corwin. Listen. I don't want you to feel singled out, but look at it like this. If you come here to express your opinion, and request the opinion of others, there is bound to be discussion. Some will think you are wrong while others will think you are right. If discussion wasn't a factor, then every single post on these boards would look like this...</p><p></p><p>Board Member #1: I think it works like this.</p><p>Board Member #2: I think it works like this.</p><p>*End of thread*</p><p></p><p>...What's the point in that? This is a discussion board, a place where discussion are held. You express your opinion, I express mine, someone else expresses their's, then everybody gets involved to poke holes in each others opinions for the purpose of coming to a single opinion that either A) benefits eveyone, and/or B) makes the most sense within the rules, and/or C) just makes the game more fun.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Not at all. If you express your opinion, and someone else disagrees with your opinion, that's just a fact of life. Like I said, this is a discussion board, so if you came here to express your opinion but you weren't actually here to listen to other opinions, then you might have come here for the wrong reasons, or you should just ignore the ones that you don't agree with.</p><p></p><p>You are fully entitled to your own opinion. If you don't want to allow a raging Barbarian/Rogue to be able to Sneak Attack, that's perfectly fine. As a DM, it is well within your right to make any rulings you see fit. The only thing you can hope for is that your players won't have a problem with your ruling. If they don't, that's awesome. If they do, then you might want to think about your ruling and see if it's fair, and coming here to explain why you made that ruling is the whole purpose of these boards.</p><p></p><p>Personally, I wouldn't be happy with a Barbarian/Rogue not being able to sneak attack while raging, thus I wouldn't play a Barbarian/Rogue in your games. This is not to say that I wouldn't play a Fighter/Rogue in your games, just not a Barbarian/Rogue, because I believe opposite of what you do. It's not an insult that I don't agree. We just have different play styles. However, it is also well within both of our rights to think that the other is just full of it and has no clue how the rules actually work. It just depends on how strongly your belief of a rule is.</p><p></p><p>If you question your own opinion or ruling, or if you would like another viewpoint to see if your opinion or ruling is fair, just, and makes sense, then this is the place to express your opinion or ruling. If, however, you do not question your opinion or ruling, and you already believe it to be fair, just, and makes sense, then why bother posting in the first place if you aren't willing to listen to other's opinions?</p><p></p><p>When you express your opinion, others are bound to disagree. If you didn't request advice or if you didn't ask if anyone thinks your opinion is wrong, then just ignore any posts that say so. Sift through those posts and just pay attention to those that are useful to you.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Post count has nothing to do with it. Crothian has a better overall grasp of the rules than I, and he has more posts than I. Caliban has one of the better overall grasps of the rules than 95% of the people here, and his posts are fewer than mine. My grasp of the rules is pretty specific in a few areas, and is not overall. Post counts have nothing to do with it. And as I'm sure you've noticed, Crothian, Caliban, and myself are very different individuals. You'll never get the same reply from the three of us, and that also applies to just about everyone here.</p><p></p><p>Look, bottom line is this. I don't have a problem with you or anyone else calling me a Sadistic Pig-Headed Arrogant Infantile Egomaniac, but I certainly do have a problem when you generalize this board as a whole. Not everyone is as big of a pain in the arse as me, so you should give them some credit.</p><p></p><p>EDIT: Almost forgot. Welcome to the boards. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kreynolds, post: 213088, member: 2829"] Corwin. Listen. I don't want you to feel singled out, but look at it like this. If you come here to express your opinion, and request the opinion of others, there is bound to be discussion. Some will think you are wrong while others will think you are right. If discussion wasn't a factor, then every single post on these boards would look like this... Board Member #1: I think it works like this. Board Member #2: I think it works like this. *End of thread* ...What's the point in that? This is a discussion board, a place where discussion are held. You express your opinion, I express mine, someone else expresses their's, then everybody gets involved to poke holes in each others opinions for the purpose of coming to a single opinion that either A) benefits eveyone, and/or B) makes the most sense within the rules, and/or C) just makes the game more fun. Not at all. If you express your opinion, and someone else disagrees with your opinion, that's just a fact of life. Like I said, this is a discussion board, so if you came here to express your opinion but you weren't actually here to listen to other opinions, then you might have come here for the wrong reasons, or you should just ignore the ones that you don't agree with. You are fully entitled to your own opinion. If you don't want to allow a raging Barbarian/Rogue to be able to Sneak Attack, that's perfectly fine. As a DM, it is well within your right to make any rulings you see fit. The only thing you can hope for is that your players won't have a problem with your ruling. If they don't, that's awesome. If they do, then you might want to think about your ruling and see if it's fair, and coming here to explain why you made that ruling is the whole purpose of these boards. Personally, I wouldn't be happy with a Barbarian/Rogue not being able to sneak attack while raging, thus I wouldn't play a Barbarian/Rogue in your games. This is not to say that I wouldn't play a Fighter/Rogue in your games, just not a Barbarian/Rogue, because I believe opposite of what you do. It's not an insult that I don't agree. We just have different play styles. However, it is also well within both of our rights to think that the other is just full of it and has no clue how the rules actually work. It just depends on how strongly your belief of a rule is. If you question your own opinion or ruling, or if you would like another viewpoint to see if your opinion or ruling is fair, just, and makes sense, then this is the place to express your opinion or ruling. If, however, you do not question your opinion or ruling, and you already believe it to be fair, just, and makes sense, then why bother posting in the first place if you aren't willing to listen to other's opinions? When you express your opinion, others are bound to disagree. If you didn't request advice or if you didn't ask if anyone thinks your opinion is wrong, then just ignore any posts that say so. Sift through those posts and just pay attention to those that are useful to you. Post count has nothing to do with it. Crothian has a better overall grasp of the rules than I, and he has more posts than I. Caliban has one of the better overall grasps of the rules than 95% of the people here, and his posts are fewer than mine. My grasp of the rules is pretty specific in a few areas, and is not overall. Post counts have nothing to do with it. And as I'm sure you've noticed, Crothian, Caliban, and myself are very different individuals. You'll never get the same reply from the three of us, and that also applies to just about everyone here. Look, bottom line is this. I don't have a problem with you or anyone else calling me a Sadistic Pig-Headed Arrogant Infantile Egomaniac, but I certainly do have a problem when you generalize this board as a whole. Not everyone is as big of a pain in the arse as me, so you should give them some credit. EDIT: Almost forgot. Welcome to the boards. :) [/QUOTE]
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