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<blockquote data-quote="TheGogmagog" data-source="post: 3314393" data-attributes="member: 27702"><p>I have to admit, at first the argument you can't sleep in it sounded dubious. But it's starting to grow on me. <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=93139" target="_blank">(see Dcollin's post #25)</a> I'm a big fan of pointing out you can fit more than one medium creature into a 5x5 space, you just can't fight effectively. So I could easily see the rope trick as a 5x5 where you can squeeze 8 people. That would still present the problem of one person (per trick). But that represents a larger investment for multiple people, and <em>still</em> rules out large creatures.</p><p></p><p>I also think you can still target the spell effect with dispel magic from the prime plane. It's a mute point though as if you are capable of detecting it (detect magic, see invisibility, blindsight or the mundane methods) let alone dispelling it you are capable of setting up an ambush.</p><p></p><p>In another discussion one of our group mentioned it used to be higher (3rd?) level, but I don't know what edition. Even at 4th, it would be better than Secure Shelter.</p><p></p><p>PS <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/magesPrivateSanctum.htm" target="_blank">Private Sanctum</a> PPS If area 30' cube is 30'x30'x30' then your range limits the area until epic levels. The 30' cube would still come into play when shaping it though. It's not true if they meant 30 cubic feet, but I don't think that's the D20 convention.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TheGogmagog, post: 3314393, member: 27702"] I have to admit, at first the argument you can't sleep in it sounded dubious. But it's starting to grow on me. [URL=http://www.enworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=93139](see Dcollin's post #25)[/URL] I'm a big fan of pointing out you can fit more than one medium creature into a 5x5 space, you just can't fight effectively. So I could easily see the rope trick as a 5x5 where you can squeeze 8 people. That would still present the problem of one person (per trick). But that represents a larger investment for multiple people, and [i]still[/i] rules out large creatures. I also think you can still target the spell effect with dispel magic from the prime plane. It's a mute point though as if you are capable of detecting it (detect magic, see invisibility, blindsight or the mundane methods) let alone dispelling it you are capable of setting up an ambush. In another discussion one of our group mentioned it used to be higher (3rd?) level, but I don't know what edition. Even at 4th, it would be better than Secure Shelter. PS [URL=http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/magesPrivateSanctum.htm]Private Sanctum[/URL] PPS If area 30' cube is 30'x30'x30' then your range limits the area until epic levels. The 30' cube would still come into play when shaping it though. It's not true if they meant 30 cubic feet, but I don't think that's the D20 convention. [/QUOTE]
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