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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 7726773" data-attributes="member: 42582"><p>This claim is manifestly not true.</p><p></p><p>When a Basic D&D GM reads out the start of the Keep on the Borderland to the players, that is a metagame decision (to frame the PCs into a well-regarded low-level module). It doesn't thwart any agency.</p><p></p><p>When those players try to negotiate with the ogre, and the referee rolls a bad reaction and narrates (while looking at the player of the elf PC) "Well, maybe I could help you, but I've got this thing about elves ever since one killed my dog" that is metagaming: had there been no elf PC but a dwarf PC instead, the bad reaction might have been narrated in terms of a hostility to dwarves. But it doesn't thwart any agency.</p><p></p><p>A GM who secretly disregards the action resolution mechanics, or who lies to the players about the mechanical or the fictional state of the game, might deprive them of agency in some (perhaps many) contexts, but I don't see how that is relevant to this thread.</p><p></p><p>I'm sorry that you had a poor GM for your 4e game.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 7726773, member: 42582"] This claim is manifestly not true. When a Basic D&D GM reads out the start of the Keep on the Borderland to the players, that is a metagame decision (to frame the PCs into a well-regarded low-level module). It doesn't thwart any agency. When those players try to negotiate with the ogre, and the referee rolls a bad reaction and narrates (while looking at the player of the elf PC) "Well, maybe I could help you, but I've got this thing about elves ever since one killed my dog" that is metagaming: had there been no elf PC but a dwarf PC instead, the bad reaction might have been narrated in terms of a hostility to dwarves. But it doesn't thwart any agency. A GM who secretly disregards the action resolution mechanics, or who lies to the players about the mechanical or the fictional state of the game, might deprive them of agency in some (perhaps many) contexts, but I don't see how that is relevant to this thread. I'm sorry that you had a poor GM for your 4e game. [/QUOTE]
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