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<blockquote data-quote="GreyLord" data-source="post: 7705799" data-attributes="member: 4348"><p>ACTUALLY, since you mention Trek, only ONE Trek film erased all progress from those before it. All other Treks built on what had happened before. Sure, there may be a new threat, but it didn't erase everything before it. It merely presented a new problem for the Cast to solve. When the Next Generation came, they didn't resurrect Kahn and say that the Earth was destroyed because the Whales died. They didn't say the Klingons now had a new Moon and were on an absolute warpath with the Federation again.</p><p></p><p>No, the Next Generation Movies had their own plots and own villains (like the Borg).</p><p></p><p>ONLY ONE movie tried to do away with the past. Interestingly enough, that was also by Abrahms. Paramount in their wisdom decided that...NO...they were not going to let him simply erase the past and ignore the canon of the prior films...if he wanted to do something without the constraints of the past...he would do it by creating an alternate timeline or an alternate idea. This way, they wouldn't upset every fan out there (they still managed to upset some fans, but the consolation is the original movies are still canon and even if the new Abrahmverse contradicts them, it's only because it's a different universe in essense).</p><p></p><p>Unfortunately, Lucasfilm didn't have the cajones to do that when Abrahms wanted to do the same thing with Star Wars. In essence, Abrahms has this thing that he can be the ONLY ONE to write the canon and wants to ignore anything anyone else has written before. He likes to pick and choose, but overall, even if he says he's a fan, wants to do what Abrahm wants, and most of the time that means ignoring what he doesn't want to pay heed to in previous films in that universe and only pick and choose from those films what he liked or wants. It's an Abrahms thing. He makes nice movies, but if you want your old movies to stand on their own and not have his new movies try to kill them off, you don't want to hire Abrahms for anything.</p><p></p><p>Hopefully they don't hire him for the MCU after this, it seems to be doing fine right now and doesn't need that sort treatment.</p><p></p><p>I'll hope (Even though he's the producer) they clean up this mess with VIII, but I think they'll continue to basically destroy the OT even further, probably something similar to what he did with ST: Into Darkness with Kahn, but with worse writing (probably better music though if it's by Williams).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GreyLord, post: 7705799, member: 4348"] ACTUALLY, since you mention Trek, only ONE Trek film erased all progress from those before it. All other Treks built on what had happened before. Sure, there may be a new threat, but it didn't erase everything before it. It merely presented a new problem for the Cast to solve. When the Next Generation came, they didn't resurrect Kahn and say that the Earth was destroyed because the Whales died. They didn't say the Klingons now had a new Moon and were on an absolute warpath with the Federation again. No, the Next Generation Movies had their own plots and own villains (like the Borg). ONLY ONE movie tried to do away with the past. Interestingly enough, that was also by Abrahms. Paramount in their wisdom decided that...NO...they were not going to let him simply erase the past and ignore the canon of the prior films...if he wanted to do something without the constraints of the past...he would do it by creating an alternate timeline or an alternate idea. This way, they wouldn't upset every fan out there (they still managed to upset some fans, but the consolation is the original movies are still canon and even if the new Abrahmverse contradicts them, it's only because it's a different universe in essense). Unfortunately, Lucasfilm didn't have the cajones to do that when Abrahms wanted to do the same thing with Star Wars. In essence, Abrahms has this thing that he can be the ONLY ONE to write the canon and wants to ignore anything anyone else has written before. He likes to pick and choose, but overall, even if he says he's a fan, wants to do what Abrahm wants, and most of the time that means ignoring what he doesn't want to pay heed to in previous films in that universe and only pick and choose from those films what he liked or wants. It's an Abrahms thing. He makes nice movies, but if you want your old movies to stand on their own and not have his new movies try to kill them off, you don't want to hire Abrahms for anything. Hopefully they don't hire him for the MCU after this, it seems to be doing fine right now and doesn't need that sort treatment. I'll hope (Even though he's the producer) they clean up this mess with VIII, but I think they'll continue to basically destroy the OT even further, probably something similar to what he did with ST: Into Darkness with Kahn, but with worse writing (probably better music though if it's by Williams). [/QUOTE]
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