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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9313269" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>Ok, general question - Americans and Canadians (and others who wish to answer), do you guys not have art classes in your schools? I'm assuming you're one those two nations Thomas, apologies if not.</p><p></p><p>Because in the UK, at certainly 90% of schools, we have art classes from starting school to at least 14 for pretty much everyone. My American wife had art classes the whole way through school in rural Indiana. My American best friend likewise, in upstate Massachusetts - I could go on, but I think pretty much every American I know IRL (which is going to be selective sure) did art classes at school - it's the sort of thing I'm interested in, because I nearly went into art professionally (I mean, I've been paid for it as a job - not paid very much though! That was part of why I stopped!). My brother, who lives in Australia and has 4 kids with his Australian wife assures me that it's the same there.</p><p></p><p></p><p>As a trained artist, who did art at GSCE, A-level, and degree level (though I didn't complete the degree - also really dating myself with those qualifications probably), whose mother was an illustrator, who knows countless artists, who grew up around artists, who has seen the work and working methods of I would guess literally hundreds of artists, I would personally say it is both bizarre and a misapprehension. People discard pieces - but if a normal person saw a lot of those pieces, they'd be generally impressed - sometimes you can understand why, next to the artist's other pieces, they didn't feel this measured up - but a lot of the time it's obviously good, but they just didn't think it was worth the continued effort as compared to changing to another piece - or it'd given them a much better idea for what they should do (this is a pretty common on). It's not usually just random trash unless your hand slips or something.</p><p></p><p>Can I ask a question if it's not too impertinent? Have you ever done any art beyond like, er... what it's called in the US - we'd say primary school - i.e. up to about age 10? Or even never? Ok if you don't want to answer.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9313269, member: 18"] Ok, general question - Americans and Canadians (and others who wish to answer), do you guys not have art classes in your schools? I'm assuming you're one those two nations Thomas, apologies if not. Because in the UK, at certainly 90% of schools, we have art classes from starting school to at least 14 for pretty much everyone. My American wife had art classes the whole way through school in rural Indiana. My American best friend likewise, in upstate Massachusetts - I could go on, but I think pretty much every American I know IRL (which is going to be selective sure) did art classes at school - it's the sort of thing I'm interested in, because I nearly went into art professionally (I mean, I've been paid for it as a job - not paid very much though! That was part of why I stopped!). My brother, who lives in Australia and has 4 kids with his Australian wife assures me that it's the same there. As a trained artist, who did art at GSCE, A-level, and degree level (though I didn't complete the degree - also really dating myself with those qualifications probably), whose mother was an illustrator, who knows countless artists, who grew up around artists, who has seen the work and working methods of I would guess literally hundreds of artists, I would personally say it is both bizarre and a misapprehension. People discard pieces - but if a normal person saw a lot of those pieces, they'd be generally impressed - sometimes you can understand why, next to the artist's other pieces, they didn't feel this measured up - but a lot of the time it's obviously good, but they just didn't think it was worth the continued effort as compared to changing to another piece - or it'd given them a much better idea for what they should do (this is a pretty common on). It's not usually just random trash unless your hand slips or something. Can I ask a question if it's not too impertinent? Have you ever done any art beyond like, er... what it's called in the US - we'd say primary school - i.e. up to about age 10? Or even never? Ok if you don't want to answer. [/QUOTE]
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