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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 9140231" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>Well, as long as you don't consider peasant revolts, revolts by landless nobility, widespread banditry by the landless nobility, and the widespread murder of the peasant class to be an interruption in peace, then yes the Shogun bought peace. But I have to agree with Quark here, "That's the sort of irresponsible spending that causes so many business ventures to fail. You're forgetting the third rule of acquisition." One way to look at the Shogunate would be a period of peace. The other way to look at it would be one of the most perfect fascist dystopias that humanity has ever managed to create - a stagnate culture defined by a sandal pressed down on every throat, a culture that valued human life lower than almost any other society because with limited land, a stagnate economy, and no need to defend from outsiders what was one peasant's life among others. One less mouth to be fed was just an opportunity for someone else. The scary thing about is that it could have potentially been stable nigh indefinitely. Rational policies combined with ruthless murder tended to prevent any of the disgruntled parties from having the power to do anything about it. The only thing that broke it was stagnate technology created an excession crisis in which they rulers eventually realized they'd fallen three centuries behind the rest of the world in power, something intolerable to a master race supposedly superior in every virtue to the barbarians over the seas.</p><p></p><p>It is a fascinating period in human history though, and the Meiji Restoration is probably one of the most remarkable things that has ever happened in human history. Very much gameable though, at least if you aren't a peasant. Blades in the Cherry Blossums sort of thing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 9140231, member: 4937"] Well, as long as you don't consider peasant revolts, revolts by landless nobility, widespread banditry by the landless nobility, and the widespread murder of the peasant class to be an interruption in peace, then yes the Shogun bought peace. But I have to agree with Quark here, "That's the sort of irresponsible spending that causes so many business ventures to fail. You're forgetting the third rule of acquisition." One way to look at the Shogunate would be a period of peace. The other way to look at it would be one of the most perfect fascist dystopias that humanity has ever managed to create - a stagnate culture defined by a sandal pressed down on every throat, a culture that valued human life lower than almost any other society because with limited land, a stagnate economy, and no need to defend from outsiders what was one peasant's life among others. One less mouth to be fed was just an opportunity for someone else. The scary thing about is that it could have potentially been stable nigh indefinitely. Rational policies combined with ruthless murder tended to prevent any of the disgruntled parties from having the power to do anything about it. The only thing that broke it was stagnate technology created an excession crisis in which they rulers eventually realized they'd fallen three centuries behind the rest of the world in power, something intolerable to a master race supposedly superior in every virtue to the barbarians over the seas. It is a fascinating period in human history though, and the Meiji Restoration is probably one of the most remarkable things that has ever happened in human history. Very much gameable though, at least if you aren't a peasant. Blades in the Cherry Blossums sort of thing. [/QUOTE]
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