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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9050588" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>Loads of people have suggested it - it's been a common comment about the movie, particularly in nerdy circles.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Disagree, or rather, it doesn't get you what<em> nerds</em> call "cultural footprint". Films can be incredibly successful with normies and have zero nerd-acknowledged cultural footprint.</p><p></p><p></p><p>That's kind of the thing, though, aside from a few key scenes/lines which are much-parodied and the like, the amount people who have never seen The Godfather or Titanic know about them is absolutely minuscule these days. Star Wars is different (MCU arguably was getting that way but it hasn't sustained it.)</p><p></p><p>This is why I made my "It has to be like how people think of Star Wars or it doesn't count" comment earlier. Because that's really the only thing where what you're saying is fully true. Godfather particularly is increasingly down to "An offer you can't refuse", "Look at how they massacred my boy", the general broad concept of horse's heads in beds, which is increasingly just a vague "mafia" trope, and maybe, if you're lucky, something about Fredo, but that's increasingly <em>not a thing</em> with younger people because it kind of requires you to have watched Godfather 2.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm talking more about self-defining categories, ever since "nerd" became a point of pride for a lot of people. There's<em> never</em> been anything "extraordinary" about being a nerd though, that's some some really silly and pompous self-valorisation, imho. I'm talking about the sort of people who intentionally wear t-shirts with D&D-related slogans on them, or buy those ghastly dolls... Funko Pops... or the like. There's not anything extraordinary about those people. They're common-or-garden. But they're different from "normies", culturally, who wouldn't do those things (still, right now - give it a decade or two maybe that changes), and despite being common, are a minority at all age groups above children.</p><p></p><p>As per my example re: the crowds for the D&D movie and Avatar, virtually everyone at the D&D movie was wearing some kind of intentional nerd signifier (mostly not D&D-related). I was one of the few people who wasn't, and that's arguable because my jacket kind of has Commander Shepard lines on it. Whereas with Avatar 2, virtually no-one was, indeed, it was more similar to what you'd see at a pub on a Saturday or something (early in the evening), just with more parents. MCU stuff tends to split the difference but has an awful lot of nerds.</p><p></p><p>Star Wars seems to exceed all boundaries here, so I discount it as a nerd identifier unless it's really extreme.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9050588, member: 18"] Loads of people have suggested it - it's been a common comment about the movie, particularly in nerdy circles. Disagree, or rather, it doesn't get you what[I] nerds[/I] call "cultural footprint". Films can be incredibly successful with normies and have zero nerd-acknowledged cultural footprint. That's kind of the thing, though, aside from a few key scenes/lines which are much-parodied and the like, the amount people who have never seen The Godfather or Titanic know about them is absolutely minuscule these days. Star Wars is different (MCU arguably was getting that way but it hasn't sustained it.) This is why I made my "It has to be like how people think of Star Wars or it doesn't count" comment earlier. Because that's really the only thing where what you're saying is fully true. Godfather particularly is increasingly down to "An offer you can't refuse", "Look at how they massacred my boy", the general broad concept of horse's heads in beds, which is increasingly just a vague "mafia" trope, and maybe, if you're lucky, something about Fredo, but that's increasingly [I]not a thing[/I] with younger people because it kind of requires you to have watched Godfather 2. I'm talking more about self-defining categories, ever since "nerd" became a point of pride for a lot of people. There's[I] never[/I] been anything "extraordinary" about being a nerd though, that's some some really silly and pompous self-valorisation, imho. I'm talking about the sort of people who intentionally wear t-shirts with D&D-related slogans on them, or buy those ghastly dolls... Funko Pops... or the like. There's not anything extraordinary about those people. They're common-or-garden. But they're different from "normies", culturally, who wouldn't do those things (still, right now - give it a decade or two maybe that changes), and despite being common, are a minority at all age groups above children. As per my example re: the crowds for the D&D movie and Avatar, virtually everyone at the D&D movie was wearing some kind of intentional nerd signifier (mostly not D&D-related). I was one of the few people who wasn't, and that's arguable because my jacket kind of has Commander Shepard lines on it. Whereas with Avatar 2, virtually no-one was, indeed, it was more similar to what you'd see at a pub on a Saturday or something (early in the evening), just with more parents. MCU stuff tends to split the difference but has an awful lot of nerds. Star Wars seems to exceed all boundaries here, so I discount it as a nerd identifier unless it's really extreme. [/QUOTE]
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