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<blockquote data-quote="Ashrum the Black" data-source="post: 3008584" data-attributes="member: 1585"><p>"groupthink"? </p><p></p><p>I'll pass. I spend all day long at work doing groups. For the most part they are highly ineffective and generally a waste of time. Why? Because you're always pulled down to the level of the lowest person there. </p><p></p><p>Put somebody in charge, let him make the call, and move on. Yeesh. I waste more time explaining issues ten ways all day long to make sure everybody understands. I DM, and play in my group and have no issues of trust concerning my DM's. Why? Because I'm having fun. If he wants a pink dragon with a candy corn breath weapon. Fine. As long as I'm still having fun who cares it's not RAW? </p><p></p><p>You want to improve the game then make the DM's job easier by giving him the tools to make NPC's in less then an hour each at 15th level. Make the rules flexible enough to accomplish just as much as they do today, but make them more consistent. I'm looking at you here grapple. Don't remove the DM, I'm tired of groups doing things in cooperation because not everybody is reasonable. Sometimes you simply can't agree, and there is why a DM exists. </p><p></p><p>I will with hold judgment on 4E until I see it. I'm trying to keep an open mind, since really, we know nothing about it beyond speculation anyway. Each of us has our own sacred cows we don't want to see disappear. Until we hold the book in our hands though we will have no idea which truely were slaughtered and which remain. Some of us will decry the changes and leave the hobby, others will applaude them and bring new blood in. </p><p></p><p>-Ashrum</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ashrum the Black, post: 3008584, member: 1585"] "groupthink"? I'll pass. I spend all day long at work doing groups. For the most part they are highly ineffective and generally a waste of time. Why? Because you're always pulled down to the level of the lowest person there. Put somebody in charge, let him make the call, and move on. Yeesh. I waste more time explaining issues ten ways all day long to make sure everybody understands. I DM, and play in my group and have no issues of trust concerning my DM's. Why? Because I'm having fun. If he wants a pink dragon with a candy corn breath weapon. Fine. As long as I'm still having fun who cares it's not RAW? You want to improve the game then make the DM's job easier by giving him the tools to make NPC's in less then an hour each at 15th level. Make the rules flexible enough to accomplish just as much as they do today, but make them more consistent. I'm looking at you here grapple. Don't remove the DM, I'm tired of groups doing things in cooperation because not everybody is reasonable. Sometimes you simply can't agree, and there is why a DM exists. I will with hold judgment on 4E until I see it. I'm trying to keep an open mind, since really, we know nothing about it beyond speculation anyway. Each of us has our own sacred cows we don't want to see disappear. Until we hold the book in our hands though we will have no idea which truely were slaughtered and which remain. Some of us will decry the changes and leave the hobby, others will applaude them and bring new blood in. -Ashrum [/QUOTE]
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