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<blockquote data-quote="kigmatzomat" data-source="post: 2812817" data-attributes="member: 9254"><p>$480 mil is pretty good but I doubt it eclipses all RPG revenue. WW alone earned $14 mil in 1996 and $10M in 1997. That means they probably earned more than $100 million in total. Add that to SJG ($2.8M in 2004 so probably ~$50M there), WotC (Which under Dancey earned >$50M/yr), the oft-forgotten Palladium, and more definitely show this to be an exaggeration.</p><p></p><p>And the thing to remember is that WoW cost quite a bit to make; like $60 million. They just broke 5 million players world-wide so their data center costs are far from insignificant (I've worked at data centers; ain't cheap.). I imagine they spend upwards of a hundred tho a month just on power, not counting admins, DBAs, or data. Then there are GMs and the constant maintenance that has to be done so the game stays fresh. </p><p></p><p>Blizzard is definitely earning money left and right (probably ~$2/month/user) but trust me, they are working for it. </p><p></p><p>If Ryan wants to see an RPG company make $480M, perhaps he should consider spending $60 million on the game. Maybe then we could get decent indexes, rules that have been completely play-tested, non-sucky art, and supplements that are more than "Revised" versions of existing material. I might spend $240/year on gaming materials then.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kigmatzomat, post: 2812817, member: 9254"] $480 mil is pretty good but I doubt it eclipses all RPG revenue. WW alone earned $14 mil in 1996 and $10M in 1997. That means they probably earned more than $100 million in total. Add that to SJG ($2.8M in 2004 so probably ~$50M there), WotC (Which under Dancey earned >$50M/yr), the oft-forgotten Palladium, and more definitely show this to be an exaggeration. And the thing to remember is that WoW cost quite a bit to make; like $60 million. They just broke 5 million players world-wide so their data center costs are far from insignificant (I've worked at data centers; ain't cheap.). I imagine they spend upwards of a hundred tho a month just on power, not counting admins, DBAs, or data. Then there are GMs and the constant maintenance that has to be done so the game stays fresh. Blizzard is definitely earning money left and right (probably ~$2/month/user) but trust me, they are working for it. If Ryan wants to see an RPG company make $480M, perhaps he should consider spending $60 million on the game. Maybe then we could get decent indexes, rules that have been completely play-tested, non-sucky art, and supplements that are more than "Revised" versions of existing material. I might spend $240/year on gaming materials then. [/QUOTE]
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