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<blockquote data-quote="cooperjer" data-source="post: 6996385" data-attributes="member: 6862150"><p>The only detail on regarding a target noticing if a spell is affecting them is written vague enough to allow DM discretion and possible argument with a player. The text from PH 204, second paragraph under the heading Targets, details the specifics, "Unless a spell has a perceptible effect, a creature might not know it was targetd by a spell at all." It goes on to give an example about lightning crackling vs mind reading and then says the spell tells you what happens. The Subtle Spell feature only removes the verbal and somatic components of a spell so it does not interfere with this detail. Therefore, depending on the spell description and the material components used a target may notice if a caster cast a spell. Continuing with the example of lighting example from the book the Lightning Bolt spell describes a line of lightning coming from the caster. However; looking the spell Levitate, there is no description of anything coming from the caster and therefore, I would suggest that a caster using their spell focus as the material component could levitate a creature without that creature being aware of who the caster was.</p><p></p><p>After some conversation with my sorcerer player, she pointed out that once the ball of bat guano or bolt of lightning leaves the casters hands, it's too late to counterspell the spell because it has been cast. An observing caster would need to perceive the handling of a material component prior to the casting of the spell for it to be countered. In addition, my player indicated she may start throwing bat guano at NPCs just to get them off guard.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="cooperjer, post: 6996385, member: 6862150"] The only detail on regarding a target noticing if a spell is affecting them is written vague enough to allow DM discretion and possible argument with a player. The text from PH 204, second paragraph under the heading Targets, details the specifics, "Unless a spell has a perceptible effect, a creature might not know it was targetd by a spell at all." It goes on to give an example about lightning crackling vs mind reading and then says the spell tells you what happens. The Subtle Spell feature only removes the verbal and somatic components of a spell so it does not interfere with this detail. Therefore, depending on the spell description and the material components used a target may notice if a caster cast a spell. Continuing with the example of lighting example from the book the Lightning Bolt spell describes a line of lightning coming from the caster. However; looking the spell Levitate, there is no description of anything coming from the caster and therefore, I would suggest that a caster using their spell focus as the material component could levitate a creature without that creature being aware of who the caster was. After some conversation with my sorcerer player, she pointed out that once the ball of bat guano or bolt of lightning leaves the casters hands, it's too late to counterspell the spell because it has been cast. An observing caster would need to perceive the handling of a material component prior to the casting of the spell for it to be countered. In addition, my player indicated she may start throwing bat guano at NPCs just to get them off guard. [/QUOTE]
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