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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 7565059" data-attributes="member: 23751"><p>These quotes seal the deal, though.</p><p></p><p>1. "There's a rule that allows you to insert movement between your attacks (PH, 190). <strong>There's intentionally no rule that allows you to nest actions/reactions inside each other. They are meant to have integrity as processes, except when we create exceptions meant to disrupt them.</strong>"</p><p></p><p>Right there it he is saying that actions are indivisible except by specific beats general.</p><p></p><p>2. "In 2017, I changed the ruling on bonus action timing because the old ruling was illogical. The original ruling failed to account for the fact that X relying on Y is a form of timing. The new ruling corrects that oversight."</p><p></p><p>And here is where he says there is specific timing in the Shield Master feat, where taking and completing the requirement for the bonus action is necessary in order to get it. Basically, if there is a requirement that needs to be met in order to get a bonus action, there is timing built into that bonus action.</p><p></p><p>So while a bonus action with no trigger at all could be used in-between attacks(it still can't be used simultaneously with one), Shield Master still requires that you complete the full Attack action. The last portion is at odds with #1 above, though.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 7565059, member: 23751"] These quotes seal the deal, though. 1. "There's a rule that allows you to insert movement between your attacks (PH, 190). [B]There's intentionally no rule that allows you to nest actions/reactions inside each other. They are meant to have integrity as processes, except when we create exceptions meant to disrupt them.[/B]" Right there it he is saying that actions are indivisible except by specific beats general. 2. "In 2017, I changed the ruling on bonus action timing because the old ruling was illogical. The original ruling failed to account for the fact that X relying on Y is a form of timing. The new ruling corrects that oversight." And here is where he says there is specific timing in the Shield Master feat, where taking and completing the requirement for the bonus action is necessary in order to get it. Basically, if there is a requirement that needs to be met in order to get a bonus action, there is timing built into that bonus action. So while a bonus action with no trigger at all could be used in-between attacks(it still can't be used simultaneously with one), Shield Master still requires that you complete the full Attack action. The last portion is at odds with #1 above, though. [/QUOTE]
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