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Sagiro's Story Hour: The FINAL Adventures of Abernathy's Company (FINISHED 7/3/14)
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<blockquote data-quote="Sagiro" data-source="post: 5399749" data-attributes="member: 726"><p>In general I take a dim view of "save or die" spells like <em>wail of the banshee</em> or <em>finger of death</em>. Though I've never outright banned them or anything, my players and I do in fact have a kind of unspoken detente. </p><p></p><p>Of course, with the arrival of spells like <em>revivify</em> in the Spell Compendium, I may rethink that policy before the end. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devil.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":devil:" title="Devil :devil:" data-shortname=":devil:" /> </p><p></p><p>Aravis's player has pointed out on many occasions that high-damage spells are often "save or die," if the target's hit points are low enough. I personally don't think of them the same way, though, unless the damage is high enough to kill a full-HP PC in a single round. Also, Aravis has no qualms about tossing around 40d6 <em>disintegrate</em> spells, which are save-or-die if your HP are at or below around 140.</p><p></p><p><em>Heartclutch</em> is not technically save or die. On a failed save, the target will die in 3 rounds unless someone uses <em>heal, mass heal, miracle</em> or <em>wish</em>.</p><p></p><p>Finally, I don't minding using <em>flesh to stone</em>, since the party member can be revived if the party wins the fight, or during combat if someone has prepared <em>stone to flesh</em>, or uses a <em>miracle</em> or <em>wish</em>.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sagiro, post: 5399749, member: 726"] In general I take a dim view of "save or die" spells like [i]wail of the banshee[/i] or [i]finger of death[/i]. Though I've never outright banned them or anything, my players and I do in fact have a kind of unspoken detente. Of course, with the arrival of spells like [i]revivify[/i] in the Spell Compendium, I may rethink that policy before the end. :devil: Aravis's player has pointed out on many occasions that high-damage spells are often "save or die," if the target's hit points are low enough. I personally don't think of them the same way, though, unless the damage is high enough to kill a full-HP PC in a single round. Also, Aravis has no qualms about tossing around 40d6 [i]disintegrate[/i] spells, which are save-or-die if your HP are at or below around 140. [i]Heartclutch[/i] is not technically save or die. On a failed save, the target will die in 3 rounds unless someone uses [i]heal, mass heal, miracle[/i] or [i]wish[/i]. Finally, I don't minding using [i]flesh to stone[/i], since the party member can be revived if the party wins the fight, or during combat if someone has prepared [i]stone to flesh[/i], or uses a [i]miracle[/i] or [i]wish[/i]. [/QUOTE]
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