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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 6129748" data-attributes="member: 177"><p>Quite.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You realize that you just described two and a half decades of Doctor Who - pretty much everything prior to Eccleston's Doctor? You're talking about a new theme, on the scale of these things - it only entered with Eccleston's Doctor, with his history in the Time War. For most of the show's history, it was pretty much him as a wand-wielding wizard, out to save the universe.</p><p></p><p>And, even in the more recent episodes, there's still many episodes where the Doctor is in his old "force of nature" mode, where the question of his morality runs a far second to his role as wizard - a lot of who is still morality tale.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Technically incorrect - it is just that the *viewer* cannot understand his language. Luke can understand Binary, however. So does C3PO, Annakin Skywalker, and arguably Chewbacca.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes. But the newest Star Trek movie wasn't about who and what Sulu is, either. Most movies have secondary characters. The movies aren't about them. "This movie isn't about what the secondary characters might be about" is not a good basis for what genre it should fit into. It's like trying to say that Mulan isn't science fiction because it fails to explore the inhuman insectoid mental workings of the cricket character. Sure, Mulan isn't sci-fi, but failure to explore the cricket isn't the reason it fails to fit the genre!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 6129748, member: 177"] Quite. You realize that you just described two and a half decades of Doctor Who - pretty much everything prior to Eccleston's Doctor? You're talking about a new theme, on the scale of these things - it only entered with Eccleston's Doctor, with his history in the Time War. For most of the show's history, it was pretty much him as a wand-wielding wizard, out to save the universe. And, even in the more recent episodes, there's still many episodes where the Doctor is in his old "force of nature" mode, where the question of his morality runs a far second to his role as wizard - a lot of who is still morality tale. Technically incorrect - it is just that the *viewer* cannot understand his language. Luke can understand Binary, however. So does C3PO, Annakin Skywalker, and arguably Chewbacca. Yes. But the newest Star Trek movie wasn't about who and what Sulu is, either. Most movies have secondary characters. The movies aren't about them. "This movie isn't about what the secondary characters might be about" is not a good basis for what genre it should fit into. It's like trying to say that Mulan isn't science fiction because it fails to explore the inhuman insectoid mental workings of the cricket character. Sure, Mulan isn't sci-fi, but failure to explore the cricket isn't the reason it fails to fit the genre! [/QUOTE]
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