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<blockquote data-quote="TrippyHippy" data-source="post: 7729658" data-attributes="member: 27252"><p>To quote Steve Jackson from his 2004 Report to Stakeholders: </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.sjgames.com/general/stakeholders/report05.html" target="_blank">http://www.sjgames.com/general/stakeholders/report05.html</a> </p><p></p><p>Note this was <em>after</em> they had launched e23. They hadn't intended to set up e23 as a means to buy current GURPS books. They revised this policy some years later (and once again, revised the policy in 2017 by releasing them on Drivethrurpg). They had been arguing this policy, fairly strongly in various online fora previously. </p><p></p><p>It has everything to do with it. If they don't think that the physical sales are significant anymore, then any objections to releasing PDF sales becomes diminished. The PDF market is insignificant to them, by comparison to physical games sales. They are putting the PDFs online to keep GURPS alive at minimal cost, not because they see it as a great marketing venture. </p><p></p><p>I'm not annoyed by anything here, but your references were not useful to this discussion whatsoever, and neither are your straw man arguments. </p><p></p><p>What is silly is regurgitating <em>my own core argument</em> on this thread - that SJGames is not obliged to change it's prices - as if you are trying to tell me something I don't know. Have you actually read anything I have said here? </p><p></p><p>They are not 'committed' to PDFs. They just realise, as other companies have done, that they can maintain the GURPS game line at minimal cost without resorting to a print run for the foreseeable future. The PDFs are not being released with any real intent at making a significant profit. As such, they are unlikely to worry much about a few critics online complaining about their costs. It's irrelevant to them - most of their fans will have already bought the GURPS line already.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TrippyHippy, post: 7729658, member: 27252"] To quote Steve Jackson from his 2004 Report to Stakeholders: [url]http://www.sjgames.com/general/stakeholders/report05.html[/url] Note this was [I]after[/I] they had launched e23. They hadn't intended to set up e23 as a means to buy current GURPS books. They revised this policy some years later (and once again, revised the policy in 2017 by releasing them on Drivethrurpg). They had been arguing this policy, fairly strongly in various online fora previously. It has everything to do with it. If they don't think that the physical sales are significant anymore, then any objections to releasing PDF sales becomes diminished. The PDF market is insignificant to them, by comparison to physical games sales. They are putting the PDFs online to keep GURPS alive at minimal cost, not because they see it as a great marketing venture. I'm not annoyed by anything here, but your references were not useful to this discussion whatsoever, and neither are your straw man arguments. What is silly is regurgitating [I]my own core argument[/I] on this thread - that SJGames is not obliged to change it's prices - as if you are trying to tell me something I don't know. Have you actually read anything I have said here? They are not 'committed' to PDFs. They just realise, as other companies have done, that they can maintain the GURPS game line at minimal cost without resorting to a print run for the foreseeable future. The PDFs are not being released with any real intent at making a significant profit. As such, they are unlikely to worry much about a few critics online complaining about their costs. It's irrelevant to them - most of their fans will have already bought the GURPS line already. [/QUOTE]
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