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<blockquote data-quote="Tormal" data-source="post: 1786709" data-attributes="member: 17837"><p>While on the way back to the manor Tormal takes some time to discuss his feelings about our situation and to reflect on his statments before.</p><p></p><p>"I've been thinking...."</p><p></p><p>He stops talking momentarilly as he almost trips over himself. He kneels down and ties his boots then stands up and continues walking. </p><p></p><p>"I've been thinking about what I said earlier regarding Marckus (sp?). A part of me still feels the way I stated earlier. I believe, especially in his case, that it would be better to end his sufferings now rather then prolonging it and having him die anyway. On the other hand, I... I also feel that you are not misguided with your determination to keep him alive. You caught me off guard... " </p><p></p><p>He looks at Oceas and Tyrm </p><p></p><p>"I hadn't had time to think about my answer or the true way I feel. I tend to speak a bit more spontaneously at times. However, before I begin, the only thing I have to get off my chest is the fact that you made my point of view look cowardly. I do not appreciate that especially since I did not do the same to you. If you truly think death is a cowardly alternative to suffering, I will certainly keep that in mind."</p><p></p><p>He raises his eyebrow to both Tyrm and Oceas.</p><p></p><p>"An intersting thing to me is the fact that you indirectly stated that once Marckus dies he would not continue to stop the spread of evil. I'm not the religious one here and I know that is not true... in any way. In reference to the argument you gave to Ceru, Tyrm, couldn't it be possible Xanthos calls upon Marckus's soul for a greater purpose - elsewhere? You call me selfish, yet it could be that your just as selfish in saying he should stay here. Perhaps his knowledge and skills are needed in something greater. You may think we're number one here but evil exists and needs to be corrected... Everywhere. Our existance here is but a grain of sand upon an endless beach. In any case though," He shakes his head " the decision cannot be made by any of us. Which is where I made my mistake before. I should not have been so quick to decide upon another's fate. Instead it's up to Marckus himself."</p><p></p><p>He stops talking for a moment. You note the frustration and sincerity both, on his face. </p><p></p><p>"I believe, regardless of the situation, it should be up to a person to decide their own fate. The only exception to this would be situations where they are unable to make such decisions. This is where I would agree with you and why I revoke my arguemnts from earlier. Unless Marckus asks for it, I agree with the fact that we should try to save his life. We should try to save his life or restore him to a condition in which he could make that decision."</p><p></p><p>He stops for the moment.</p><p></p><p>Later that evening...</p><p></p><p>"There is one other thing I would like to address regardless of your positions on the matter. I have a hard time comprehinding the reasoning behind killing that gnoll. I understand the gnolls are our enemies and the atrocities they have commited are horrific, but that certainly does not produce a solid argument for killing a defensless creature. The only thing that disturbs me is that this group would trade a creature's - any creature's - life for convienence. Self defense is one thing, but there are other ways to solve problems.</p><p></p><p>I don't appose fighting evil especially when it threatens me or those I care about, but If I have a chance to try to change evil to good I feel I need to try and take that step. I believe in mercy because as far fetched as it may seem, it's possible for most beings to change. I suppose I misjudged the lot of you. Don't take that as an insult i'm just simply stating that we have different beliefs. Much like I try not to offend each of you I ask you do the same for me. If you wish I continue to travel with this group I ask that you please show a bit more respect to life of all kinds."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tormal, post: 1786709, member: 17837"] While on the way back to the manor Tormal takes some time to discuss his feelings about our situation and to reflect on his statments before. "I've been thinking...." He stops talking momentarilly as he almost trips over himself. He kneels down and ties his boots then stands up and continues walking. "I've been thinking about what I said earlier regarding Marckus (sp?). A part of me still feels the way I stated earlier. I believe, especially in his case, that it would be better to end his sufferings now rather then prolonging it and having him die anyway. On the other hand, I... I also feel that you are not misguided with your determination to keep him alive. You caught me off guard... " He looks at Oceas and Tyrm "I hadn't had time to think about my answer or the true way I feel. I tend to speak a bit more spontaneously at times. However, before I begin, the only thing I have to get off my chest is the fact that you made my point of view look cowardly. I do not appreciate that especially since I did not do the same to you. If you truly think death is a cowardly alternative to suffering, I will certainly keep that in mind." He raises his eyebrow to both Tyrm and Oceas. "An intersting thing to me is the fact that you indirectly stated that once Marckus dies he would not continue to stop the spread of evil. I'm not the religious one here and I know that is not true... in any way. In reference to the argument you gave to Ceru, Tyrm, couldn't it be possible Xanthos calls upon Marckus's soul for a greater purpose - elsewhere? You call me selfish, yet it could be that your just as selfish in saying he should stay here. Perhaps his knowledge and skills are needed in something greater. You may think we're number one here but evil exists and needs to be corrected... Everywhere. Our existance here is but a grain of sand upon an endless beach. In any case though," He shakes his head " the decision cannot be made by any of us. Which is where I made my mistake before. I should not have been so quick to decide upon another's fate. Instead it's up to Marckus himself." He stops talking for a moment. You note the frustration and sincerity both, on his face. "I believe, regardless of the situation, it should be up to a person to decide their own fate. The only exception to this would be situations where they are unable to make such decisions. This is where I would agree with you and why I revoke my arguemnts from earlier. Unless Marckus asks for it, I agree with the fact that we should try to save his life. We should try to save his life or restore him to a condition in which he could make that decision." He stops for the moment. Later that evening... "There is one other thing I would like to address regardless of your positions on the matter. I have a hard time comprehinding the reasoning behind killing that gnoll. I understand the gnolls are our enemies and the atrocities they have commited are horrific, but that certainly does not produce a solid argument for killing a defensless creature. The only thing that disturbs me is that this group would trade a creature's - any creature's - life for convienence. Self defense is one thing, but there are other ways to solve problems. I don't appose fighting evil especially when it threatens me or those I care about, but If I have a chance to try to change evil to good I feel I need to try and take that step. I believe in mercy because as far fetched as it may seem, it's possible for most beings to change. I suppose I misjudged the lot of you. Don't take that as an insult i'm just simply stating that we have different beliefs. Much like I try not to offend each of you I ask you do the same for me. If you wish I continue to travel with this group I ask that you please show a bit more respect to life of all kinds." [/QUOTE]
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