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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 6232030" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>Didn't you just criticise people for conflating the Great Wheel cosmology for Planescape Shemeska?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>But, the Blood War has no place in the Great Wheel. It's a purely PS construct. I can love the Great Wheel and completely remove the Blood War without changing the Great Wheel one iota from it's 1e presentation. The outsiders were largely introduced in Planescape supplements, meaning that their PS versions do not actually appear in the Great Wheel. Which means that bringing them into core, bereft of any PS material is not problematic at all for someone who likes the Great Wheel but dislikes PS. The 'Loth were Daemons originally, and "mercenary demon" does not require NE whatsoever, since mercenary could be any alignment.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You might not be able to do Planescape, but, a Great Wheel game? No problems whatsoever. </p><p></p><p>Which, to me, is a complete win for 4e cosmology. I get to use all those nifty planar creatures without having to worry about all the PS material that some feel is core canon for the game.</p><p></p><p>IOW, I could have a devil with demon body guards in 1e and I can do it again in 4e (and 3e, although not 3.5 since PS managed to creep in a bit more there) and not have to worry about the Canon Police criticizing me for it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 6232030, member: 22779"] Didn't you just criticise people for conflating the Great Wheel cosmology for Planescape Shemeska? But, the Blood War has no place in the Great Wheel. It's a purely PS construct. I can love the Great Wheel and completely remove the Blood War without changing the Great Wheel one iota from it's 1e presentation. The outsiders were largely introduced in Planescape supplements, meaning that their PS versions do not actually appear in the Great Wheel. Which means that bringing them into core, bereft of any PS material is not problematic at all for someone who likes the Great Wheel but dislikes PS. The 'Loth were Daemons originally, and "mercenary demon" does not require NE whatsoever, since mercenary could be any alignment. You might not be able to do Planescape, but, a Great Wheel game? No problems whatsoever. Which, to me, is a complete win for 4e cosmology. I get to use all those nifty planar creatures without having to worry about all the PS material that some feel is core canon for the game. IOW, I could have a devil with demon body guards in 1e and I can do it again in 4e (and 3e, although not 3.5 since PS managed to creep in a bit more there) and not have to worry about the Canon Police criticizing me for it. [/QUOTE]
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