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<blockquote data-quote="Hawk Diesel" data-source="post: 7512784" data-attributes="member: 59848"><p>There is no twist. The text can be read in a number of ways. Your dissent and disagreement does not invalidate the alternatives, and any argument you have made is not definitive enough nor strong enough to state otherwise. </p><p></p><p>Your entire argument hinges on your reading of the word resemble, which has already demonstrably been shown to have definitions that include comparison beyond visible and physical similarity. Your claim that the previous paragraph provides a stylistic way to interpet the second paragraph is over-ruled by the well known philosophy of 5e to purposefully be more vague, less lawyerly use of language, and provide wider leeway for the DM to interpret the rules.</p><p></p><p>Since there is no list that definitely answers this question to provide a wider representation of potential rulings regarding additional potential improvised weapons, one example cannot possibly provide a clear enough baseline upon which to more concretely or consistently rule one way or another.</p><p></p><p>You have no leg to stand here here. The claim that your reading of the rules is the one definitive way to read it is akin to claiming that your interpretation of the Bible is the only one worthy of merit. I would ask you to stop insisting that you are concretely "right" and dissenters are concretely "wrong," but it would seem doing so is futile. All I have to say is that I am so glad I never have to be at the same game table as you, and knowing that all your shouting into the void will be an effort of vanity because it seems clear that no one is taking you seriously. And with that, I am divesting myself from further attempts to reason with FrogReaver. I really hope he is not being serious and just trolling.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hawk Diesel, post: 7512784, member: 59848"] There is no twist. The text can be read in a number of ways. Your dissent and disagreement does not invalidate the alternatives, and any argument you have made is not definitive enough nor strong enough to state otherwise. Your entire argument hinges on your reading of the word resemble, which has already demonstrably been shown to have definitions that include comparison beyond visible and physical similarity. Your claim that the previous paragraph provides a stylistic way to interpet the second paragraph is over-ruled by the well known philosophy of 5e to purposefully be more vague, less lawyerly use of language, and provide wider leeway for the DM to interpret the rules. Since there is no list that definitely answers this question to provide a wider representation of potential rulings regarding additional potential improvised weapons, one example cannot possibly provide a clear enough baseline upon which to more concretely or consistently rule one way or another. You have no leg to stand here here. The claim that your reading of the rules is the one definitive way to read it is akin to claiming that your interpretation of the Bible is the only one worthy of merit. I would ask you to stop insisting that you are concretely "right" and dissenters are concretely "wrong," but it would seem doing so is futile. All I have to say is that I am so glad I never have to be at the same game table as you, and knowing that all your shouting into the void will be an effort of vanity because it seems clear that no one is taking you seriously. And with that, I am divesting myself from further attempts to reason with FrogReaver. I really hope he is not being serious and just trolling. [/QUOTE]
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