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<blockquote data-quote="WaterRabbit" data-source="post: 7513039" data-attributes="member: 2445"><p>That you are asking these two questions show you don't understand the points being made by others. Go back and read either my post or the one you just posted where you take apart the rule.</p><p></p><p>The point you have been trying to make is that allowing a shield to use a d6 is a house rule and not a GM ruling about the damage a shield would do.</p><p></p><p>If one were to allow the shield to be used with a proficiency bonus, that would be a house rule. It would be making the shield a martial weapon in effect (something I would house rule as I think it would be accurate).</p><p></p><p>Let me illustrate with an example: The characters are in a bar fight. One of the characters hits an NPC with a flimsy table. Another hits an NPC with a solid wood oak chair. In neither of these instances will the characters get their proficiency bonus. However, in the case of the flimsy table the GM rules the damage to be 1d4. In the case of the solid wood oak chair the GM rules the damage is 1d8.</p><p></p><p>This is no different than ruling a shield would do 1d6 as an improvised weapon instead of a 1d4, it is just done <em>a priori</em> by the GM.</p><p></p><p>This is the crux of what you have been arguing against which is why everyone in this thread is so perplexed by your intransigence.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WaterRabbit, post: 7513039, member: 2445"] That you are asking these two questions show you don't understand the points being made by others. Go back and read either my post or the one you just posted where you take apart the rule. The point you have been trying to make is that allowing a shield to use a d6 is a house rule and not a GM ruling about the damage a shield would do. If one were to allow the shield to be used with a proficiency bonus, that would be a house rule. It would be making the shield a martial weapon in effect (something I would house rule as I think it would be accurate). Let me illustrate with an example: The characters are in a bar fight. One of the characters hits an NPC with a flimsy table. Another hits an NPC with a solid wood oak chair. In neither of these instances will the characters get their proficiency bonus. However, in the case of the flimsy table the GM rules the damage to be 1d4. In the case of the solid wood oak chair the GM rules the damage is 1d8. This is no different than ruling a shield would do 1d6 as an improvised weapon instead of a 1d4, it is just done [I]a priori[/I] by the GM. This is the crux of what you have been arguing against which is why everyone in this thread is so perplexed by your intransigence. [/QUOTE]
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