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<blockquote data-quote="Caliban" data-source="post: 7418303" data-attributes="member: 284"><p>I think the wording of the PHB leaves it open to both interpretations - both his original one, and the one he is using now. </p><p></p><p>The feat simply says: "If you take the Attack action on your turn, you can use a bonus action to try to shove a creature within 5 feet of you with your shield." </p><p></p><p>It leaves the timing of the bonus action vague ("If you use" not "When you use"), simply requiring that you take the attack action at some point on your turn. It can seem a bit illogical that an optional bonus action can lock you into particular main action - even you are not longer able to take the attack action as a result of the bonus action shove. (Such as if you shove them out of your melee reach instead of knocking them prone). I was personally fine with that potential paradox, but apparently he just couldn't handle it anymore. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" /></p><p></p><p>A side effect of this ruling that now the bonus action attack from dual wielding and polearm master must take place after you make your regular attacks. Not that it matters nearly as much in those situations.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Caliban, post: 7418303, member: 284"] I think the wording of the PHB leaves it open to both interpretations - both his original one, and the one he is using now. The feat simply says: "If you take the Attack action on your turn, you can use a bonus action to try to shove a creature within 5 feet of you with your shield." It leaves the timing of the bonus action vague ("If you use" not "When you use"), simply requiring that you take the attack action at some point on your turn. It can seem a bit illogical that an optional bonus action can lock you into particular main action - even you are not longer able to take the attack action as a result of the bonus action shove. (Such as if you shove them out of your melee reach instead of knocking them prone). I was personally fine with that potential paradox, but apparently he just couldn't handle it anymore. :p A side effect of this ruling that now the bonus action attack from dual wielding and polearm master must take place after you make your regular attacks. Not that it matters nearly as much in those situations. [/QUOTE]
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