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<blockquote data-quote="RangerWickett" data-source="post: 5619006" data-attributes="member: 63"><p>Noodle, </p><p></p><p>[sblock]The Panoply are basically fond of new stuff, with the stated desire to find ways for people with differing beliefs to live in harmony. In actual practice they tend to have short attention spans: quick to abandon old things in order to study cultures, art, science, and other stuff that they haven't encountered before. </p><p></p><p>But basically, they'd not get along with the Obscurati, despite the fact that both groups get a lot of their basic ideas from the writings of William Miller. </p><p></p><p>The Ob have decided that their way is the best way, and we're going to force people to follow it for their own good. They view themselves are philosopher kings, and that reason, study, and hard work are the foremost ideals. But they're not fans of dissent, not anymore at least. Long ago Miller was all about discussing different ideas, but he's lived (err . . . I mean 'been around') long enough to have changed his mind.</p><p></p><p>The Panoply don't really matter as a major part of the plot until a few adventures in, but by late paragon and then epic tier, the movement and its members work against the Ob. In the meanwhile, they're just "those crazy liberals who think that everyone's viewpoints are valid, or at least can be empathized with."</p><p></p><p>Now, who's to say whether, in a few decades if left to their own devices, the Panoply might turn from a loose confederation of open-minded idealists into an institution that views itself as elite. It's a valid concern, one that a few really canny leaders in Ber might have. In fact, I rather like the idea, and if you have any suggestions on that front, we might try to weave it into the campaign.</p><p></p><p>But in the course of the campaign's timeline, the Panoply is not an 'organization.' It's a group of people pursuing thematically related and philosophically sympathetic subjects, and I planned to present them as a bit bumbling, akin to how Neal Stephenson portrays the Royal Society of London in the Baroque Cycle.</p><p></p><p>This is actually a thread of the campaign that, since it's still like a year away isn't really firmed up in my mind, so if you have any ideas, I'd love to hammer out some extra stuff to do with the Panoply.[/sblock]</p><p></p><p>But we need to keep those discussions in sblock, because it risks ruining some fun surprises in the campaign for any players who might be reading.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RangerWickett, post: 5619006, member: 63"] Noodle, [sblock]The Panoply are basically fond of new stuff, with the stated desire to find ways for people with differing beliefs to live in harmony. In actual practice they tend to have short attention spans: quick to abandon old things in order to study cultures, art, science, and other stuff that they haven't encountered before. But basically, they'd not get along with the Obscurati, despite the fact that both groups get a lot of their basic ideas from the writings of William Miller. The Ob have decided that their way is the best way, and we're going to force people to follow it for their own good. They view themselves are philosopher kings, and that reason, study, and hard work are the foremost ideals. But they're not fans of dissent, not anymore at least. Long ago Miller was all about discussing different ideas, but he's lived (err . . . I mean 'been around') long enough to have changed his mind. The Panoply don't really matter as a major part of the plot until a few adventures in, but by late paragon and then epic tier, the movement and its members work against the Ob. In the meanwhile, they're just "those crazy liberals who think that everyone's viewpoints are valid, or at least can be empathized with." Now, who's to say whether, in a few decades if left to their own devices, the Panoply might turn from a loose confederation of open-minded idealists into an institution that views itself as elite. It's a valid concern, one that a few really canny leaders in Ber might have. In fact, I rather like the idea, and if you have any suggestions on that front, we might try to weave it into the campaign. But in the course of the campaign's timeline, the Panoply is not an 'organization.' It's a group of people pursuing thematically related and philosophically sympathetic subjects, and I planned to present them as a bit bumbling, akin to how Neal Stephenson portrays the Royal Society of London in the Baroque Cycle. This is actually a thread of the campaign that, since it's still like a year away isn't really firmed up in my mind, so if you have any ideas, I'd love to hammer out some extra stuff to do with the Panoply.[/sblock] But we need to keep those discussions in sblock, because it risks ruining some fun surprises in the campaign for any players who might be reading. [/QUOTE]
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