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Should Warlock Patrons be able to revoke a Warlock's powers if the Patron is displeased?
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<blockquote data-quote="Shadowdweller00" data-source="post: 7119396" data-attributes="member: 6778479"><p>I strongly disagree that it's wrong or unbalanced for warlocks to suffer some sort of consequence for in-game rationale. It's no different for the warlock to "fall from damnation" than it is for a cleric to displease his god, a paladin to suffer for breaking their vows...or ANY OTHER character to suffer consequences for failing to live up to expectations or requirements imposed by their backgrounds or affiliations. That said, there's hundreds of different ways that a DM could choose to rule on how displeasing a Patron works even within the same setting. Some possibilities:</p><p></p><p>* Patron rescinds their power, causing the Warlocks spells to become inoperable.</p><p>* Patron rescinds their power, but Warlock may forge a different pact with a different patron</p><p>* The Warlock's magic is taught rather than granted; warlock suffers no immediate penalties, but cannot advance further in the warlock class until getting back in patron's good graces or finding another patron</p><p>* Patron doesn't actually have the slightest clue that the Warlock is acting against their interests</p><p>* Patron is too alien to impose a penalty that makes any sense to the Warlock (e.g. seemingly unrelated things happen)</p><p>* Patron can't act directly or immediately against the warlock, but may chose a suitable torment for the Warlock's soul after their eventual demise</p><p>* Patron imposes some penalty or curse upon the Warlock for as long the Warlock displeases them.</p><p>* Patron sends more loyal minions to "repossess" the Warlock's power.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shadowdweller00, post: 7119396, member: 6778479"] I strongly disagree that it's wrong or unbalanced for warlocks to suffer some sort of consequence for in-game rationale. It's no different for the warlock to "fall from damnation" than it is for a cleric to displease his god, a paladin to suffer for breaking their vows...or ANY OTHER character to suffer consequences for failing to live up to expectations or requirements imposed by their backgrounds or affiliations. That said, there's hundreds of different ways that a DM could choose to rule on how displeasing a Patron works even within the same setting. Some possibilities: * Patron rescinds their power, causing the Warlocks spells to become inoperable. * Patron rescinds their power, but Warlock may forge a different pact with a different patron * The Warlock's magic is taught rather than granted; warlock suffers no immediate penalties, but cannot advance further in the warlock class until getting back in patron's good graces or finding another patron * Patron doesn't actually have the slightest clue that the Warlock is acting against their interests * Patron is too alien to impose a penalty that makes any sense to the Warlock (e.g. seemingly unrelated things happen) * Patron can't act directly or immediately against the warlock, but may chose a suitable torment for the Warlock's soul after their eventual demise * Patron imposes some penalty or curse upon the Warlock for as long the Warlock displeases them. * Patron sends more loyal minions to "repossess" the Warlock's power. [/QUOTE]
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