D&D 5E (2014) Simulacrum and True Polymorph

[Balfore]

Can a small army of Simulacrum cast True Polymorph on each other to create real live creatures?

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[Fanaelialae]

Can a small army of Simulacrum cast True Polymorph on each other to create real live creatures?

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Not in my campaign, as I don't allow simulacrums to have their own simulacrums.

That said, I see no reason why you couldn't True Polymorph a simulacrum, but that wouldn't make it any more real than it already is. In other words, it would still be susceptible to being dispelled. While polymorphed, however, the simulacrum would be able to function as a living creature in all respects (assuming you polymorphed it into a living creature), including recovering the hit points of its assumed form. However, it would still not be able to heal its simulacrum hp, which are separate.

 

[Gardens & Goblins]

Ask your DM

 

[jaelis]

If you can turn a rock into a creature it is hard to see why you couldn't turn a simulacrum into a creature.

 

[Sunseeker]

Sure, but IMO they would lose all their class levels.

 

[Balfore]

Sure, but IMO they would lose all their class levels.

That would be fine...
Just looking for a way that an Epic villain necromancer could create mundane duplicates over a period of 100s of years

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[Sunseeker]

That would be fine...
Just looking for a way that an Epic villain necromancer could create mundane duplicates over a period of 100s of years

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By the rules, it's annoyingly difficult. But that's because the rules are designed to prohibit players from certain shenanigans.

But if he's the NPC bad guy you don't really need a rules-based solution. Like, there are liches and obviously there's a way to become a lich but there's no magic spell or system detailed in 5E on how to do so.

 

[gyor]

Not in my campaign, as I don't allow simulacrums to have their own simulacrums.

That said, I see no reason why you couldn't True Polymorph a simulacrum, but that wouldn't make it any more real than it already is. In other words, it would still be susceptible to being dispelled. While polymorphed, however, the simulacrum would be able to function as a living creature in all respects (assuming you polymorphed it into a living creature), including recovering the hit points of its assumed form. However, it would still not be able to heal its simulacrum hp, which are separate.

If you turn them into a shield guardian you can make them immune to dispel.

 

[Fanaelialae]

If you turn them into a shield guardian you can make them immune to dispel.

I'm not aware of shield guardians possessing any immunity to dispel. Did you mean helmed horrors?

Sure that could make it temporarily immune to dispel, but a helmed horror only has 60 hp (120 if its resistance can't be ignored). That's not a lot at levels 17+. If those hit points go to 0, then it reverts to a simulacrum, losing the immunity. Also, the fact that you're turning it into a construct comes with its own limitations (such as being unable to be healed by cure spells). Since the simulacrum's statistics are replaced by those of a helmed horror while polymorphed, I don't think you'd gain much benefit from doing this.

 

[shadowoflameth]

Simulacrum is an illusion, so I would just rule that it isn't a valid target for spells that need creature. Wish can trump those limitations, but that only works a limited number of times.