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<blockquote data-quote="jbear" data-source="post: 5631509" data-attributes="member: 75065"><p>your only as much of a dead weight as you make yourself, that's what my gandmother used to say. </p><p></p><p>My fighter/runepriest has 4 skills because he's human. His charisma is 8. He's a big mouth. He doesn't just opt out of social situations because I as a player am aware that a skill challenge is going on and I'm likely going to mess things up. He just gets the group from the frying pan into the fire! But he'd have the head of anyone who called him a social dead weight! He is a catalyst sir!</p><p></p><p>But on a more serious/practical note: As a player:</p><p></p><p>Seeing the balance of things in the campaign I play I could choose to pump my PC with combat options only. but he's already effective in combat. Socially, he's a dead weight <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> So, when my PC was offered a gift from the king, his owner (me) thought a Skull Mask would be a good gift. +1 Intimidate! Yoohoo! 5% boost right there. And Resist 5 necrotic is solid. And when he reaches lvl 6 he's going to multiclass into barbarian and train Intimidate. +2 dmg all encounter long and we become a social power player! With a complete lack of tact! But who is going to argue with a man in a Skull Mask!?</p><p></p><p>So, there are solutions. And in the end it's a matter of taste. If you don't build your character to be at least mildly capable when it comes time to interact with the world without murdering anything, it's because you don't want to. Not because you can't. And saying the Bard has an unfair advantage in a skill challenge because of the greater number of trained skills, is like saying a cat has unfair advantage climbing fences because it has a tail. Alright, that's not true. But, seriously, whose more involved/capable in a battle, a bard or a fighter? Shall we compare a rogue and a bard and their to hit chances? Or perhaps the healing surges of a fighter and a rogue?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jbear, post: 5631509, member: 75065"] your only as much of a dead weight as you make yourself, that's what my gandmother used to say. My fighter/runepriest has 4 skills because he's human. His charisma is 8. He's a big mouth. He doesn't just opt out of social situations because I as a player am aware that a skill challenge is going on and I'm likely going to mess things up. He just gets the group from the frying pan into the fire! But he'd have the head of anyone who called him a social dead weight! He is a catalyst sir! But on a more serious/practical note: As a player: Seeing the balance of things in the campaign I play I could choose to pump my PC with combat options only. but he's already effective in combat. Socially, he's a dead weight :) So, when my PC was offered a gift from the king, his owner (me) thought a Skull Mask would be a good gift. +1 Intimidate! Yoohoo! 5% boost right there. And Resist 5 necrotic is solid. And when he reaches lvl 6 he's going to multiclass into barbarian and train Intimidate. +2 dmg all encounter long and we become a social power player! With a complete lack of tact! But who is going to argue with a man in a Skull Mask!? So, there are solutions. And in the end it's a matter of taste. If you don't build your character to be at least mildly capable when it comes time to interact with the world without murdering anything, it's because you don't want to. Not because you can't. And saying the Bard has an unfair advantage in a skill challenge because of the greater number of trained skills, is like saying a cat has unfair advantage climbing fences because it has a tail. Alright, that's not true. But, seriously, whose more involved/capable in a battle, a bard or a fighter? Shall we compare a rogue and a bard and their to hit chances? Or perhaps the healing surges of a fighter and a rogue? [/QUOTE]
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