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<blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 7534151" data-attributes="member: 15700"><p>BA does make it less of an issue, I agree.</p><p></p><p>And as I mentioned in my initial reply, I absolutely agree that the player broke the unspoken social contract. I guess my point is that this is not a game issue, or a DM fiat issue. Fiat literally means to make an arbitrarily edict or decree. A DM making a ruling or calling for a check is not fiat. Disagreeing with a DM is not fiat. The arbitrary edict part is important. And if a DM is using established rules and guidelines to form the resolution, that is the opposite of what fiat means. </p><p></p><p>And for the record, I have zero issues with people choosing to ignore rules if it infringes on their fun. Lots of people do it. We do it with some things (like the weapon v armor table in 1e). But don't say you're following the rules when you choose to ignore your PC's INT, WIS, CHA, or how rules on how to mechanically resolve conflicts, or anything else that's part of the rules. I'd even go so far as to say that the vast majority of players don't play their PCs with super low CHA as very off-putting, or very low INT as dumb. Especially players who struggle with immersive role playing. I want to make it clear that I'm not saying doing so is a bad thing in any way.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sacrosanct, post: 7534151, member: 15700"] BA does make it less of an issue, I agree. And as I mentioned in my initial reply, I absolutely agree that the player broke the unspoken social contract. I guess my point is that this is not a game issue, or a DM fiat issue. Fiat literally means to make an arbitrarily edict or decree. A DM making a ruling or calling for a check is not fiat. Disagreeing with a DM is not fiat. The arbitrary edict part is important. And if a DM is using established rules and guidelines to form the resolution, that is the opposite of what fiat means. And for the record, I have zero issues with people choosing to ignore rules if it infringes on their fun. Lots of people do it. We do it with some things (like the weapon v armor table in 1e). But don't say you're following the rules when you choose to ignore your PC's INT, WIS, CHA, or how rules on how to mechanically resolve conflicts, or anything else that's part of the rules. I'd even go so far as to say that the vast majority of players don't play their PCs with super low CHA as very off-putting, or very low INT as dumb. Especially players who struggle with immersive role playing. I want to make it clear that I'm not saying doing so is a bad thing in any way. [/QUOTE]
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