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<blockquote data-quote="ArchfiendBobbie" data-source="post: 7309255" data-attributes="member: 6867728"><p>Depends on if that's in the EULA or not. It's <em>not</em> in the ToS, which is what we were discussing.</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>Which doesn't counter my argument that the TOS has no teeth. If there is no way under the TOS they can do anything about it, then it doesn't matter that it violates the TOS. Both violating it and not will, under the TOS, have the same outcome as far as consequences.</p><p></p><p>That was my point in saying that Bethesda ignores the little copyright infringements, such as the document this thread is about. In saying the ToS has been loophole abused by Bethesda to the point it's laughable. Because there is not <em>one single enforceable consequence</em> within it for violating it; all of the consequences are part of other documents people have to agree to or covered by copyright laws.</p><p></p><p>There isn't any point in caring what the ToS has to say about mods or even bringing it up as an argument point because the ToS itself establishes that it is <em>not</em> the primary document that covers game mod rules. The entire argument about if the ToS allows it or not is irrelevant because the argument <em>references the wrong document</em>. It's like trying to convict someone for murder by trying them under the tax laws.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ArchfiendBobbie, post: 7309255, member: 6867728"] Depends on if that's in the EULA or not. It's [I]not[/I] in the ToS, which is what we were discussing. Which doesn't counter my argument that the TOS has no teeth. If there is no way under the TOS they can do anything about it, then it doesn't matter that it violates the TOS. Both violating it and not will, under the TOS, have the same outcome as far as consequences. That was my point in saying that Bethesda ignores the little copyright infringements, such as the document this thread is about. In saying the ToS has been loophole abused by Bethesda to the point it's laughable. Because there is not [I]one single enforceable consequence[/I] within it for violating it; all of the consequences are part of other documents people have to agree to or covered by copyright laws. There isn't any point in caring what the ToS has to say about mods or even bringing it up as an argument point because the ToS itself establishes that it is [I]not[/I] the primary document that covers game mod rules. The entire argument about if the ToS allows it or not is irrelevant because the argument [I]references the wrong document[/I]. It's like trying to convict someone for murder by trying them under the tax laws. [/QUOTE]
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