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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 8952585" data-attributes="member: 93670"><p>"should paladins be able to smite outside of using a melee weapon?" Maybe, but the still current version of being able to make the attack roll determine if there was a successful attack and only then declare a smite is doubly problematic when it comes to ranged weapon smite. The GM winds up getting pressured by players because Bob can't cast a spell, call for a dex save, & <em>then</em> decide if he wanted to cast a failed acid splash that was saved against or consume a spell slot for a successful lightning bolt that targeted a failed save.</p><p></p><p>Unarmed smite is problematic though because it negates any scenario where the players (or NPCs) have been disarmed for whatever reason.</p><p>cast spells? Need a focus, do you have one? You might be tied up/shackled or whatever too</p><p>weapons? Those were taken, improvised weapons are an option till you find something better You might be tied up/shackled or whatever too</p><p>Natural weapons? You might be tied up/shackled or whatever.</p><p>Smite? You might be tied up/shackled or whatever but who cares when you can headbutt shoulder check or just flop your naked paladin self onto the guard to smite them</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 8952585, member: 93670"] "should paladins be able to smite outside of using a melee weapon?" Maybe, but the still current version of being able to make the attack roll determine if there was a successful attack and only then declare a smite is doubly problematic when it comes to ranged weapon smite. The GM winds up getting pressured by players because Bob can't cast a spell, call for a dex save, & [I]then[/I] decide if he wanted to cast a failed acid splash that was saved against or consume a spell slot for a successful lightning bolt that targeted a failed save. Unarmed smite is problematic though because it negates any scenario where the players (or NPCs) have been disarmed for whatever reason. cast spells? Need a focus, do you have one? You might be tied up/shackled or whatever too weapons? Those were taken, improvised weapons are an option till you find something better You might be tied up/shackled or whatever too Natural weapons? You might be tied up/shackled or whatever. Smite? You might be tied up/shackled or whatever but who cares when you can headbutt shoulder check or just flop your naked paladin self onto the guard to smite them [/QUOTE]
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