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<blockquote data-quote="Snarf Zagyg" data-source="post: 8359387" data-attributes="member: 7023840"><p>There are two reasons-</p><p></p><p>1. It's easier. There are 8,987,345,843 great action characters in movies (numbers are both approximate and accurate). Without rules and criteria to narrow down the field, we'd get into endless debates about which of the seven dwarfs was muy macho (trick question- it's Doc).</p><p></p><p>2. This is a "hall of fame" category for action heroes in movies; not just action characters in movies, and not just actors who appear in action movies. Which is oddly specific- just like I like 'em!</p><p></p><p>More to the point, truly great action heroes have franchises. We know this to be true! You know this to be true. Now that I've said that, it's like Vader and Luke, isn't it? Search your feelings- you know it to be true. Because we're not talking about great movies, or art, or even impeccable action sequences- we are discussing those action heroes that demanded to be seen over and over again, often past the point that they should have been seen. An action hero without a franchise is like a pencil without a lead- pointless. </p><p></p><p>If anything, Arnold is the (almost) exception that proves the rule. Because Arnold, in the 80s, was the franchise! I love Arnold as much as, if not more, than the next person, but think of his great string of movies/franchises from the 80s through the 90s- Conans, Commando, Predator, Running Man, Total Recall, Predator, Terminators, True Lies. That's a murderer's row- but people went to see Arnold because he was Arnold, not because of the subtle distinctions between his characters in Predator and Commando, or Running Man and Total Recall. </p><p></p><p>Luckily, we don't have to struggle with it because Arnold was in franchises- including the qualifying Conan.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Finally, that's part of the fun of working with rules. You get to really examine certain things; for example, Clint Eastwood couldn't qualify for his "Man With No Name" roles because those weren't Hollywood productions- there is a reason they are called spaghetti westerns. I ended up not picking James Bond because I felt that the franchise overwhelmed any particular actor's rendition (although I was sorely tempted to take Sean Connery). And so on.</p><p></p><p>The one thing you can always guarantee here?</p><p>1. If you post a poll, people will argue with whatever the poll categories are. "You can't put me in your box!'</p><p>2. If you list categories for selection (like this) at least half the comments will reject them.</p><p></p><p>It's almost like D&D and TTRPGs are filled with rules lawyers, or something. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Snarf Zagyg, post: 8359387, member: 7023840"] There are two reasons- 1. It's easier. There are 8,987,345,843 great action characters in movies (numbers are both approximate and accurate). Without rules and criteria to narrow down the field, we'd get into endless debates about which of the seven dwarfs was muy macho (trick question- it's Doc). 2. This is a "hall of fame" category for action heroes in movies; not just action characters in movies, and not just actors who appear in action movies. Which is oddly specific- just like I like 'em! More to the point, truly great action heroes have franchises. We know this to be true! You know this to be true. Now that I've said that, it's like Vader and Luke, isn't it? Search your feelings- you know it to be true. Because we're not talking about great movies, or art, or even impeccable action sequences- we are discussing those action heroes that demanded to be seen over and over again, often past the point that they should have been seen. An action hero without a franchise is like a pencil without a lead- pointless. If anything, Arnold is the (almost) exception that proves the rule. Because Arnold, in the 80s, was the franchise! I love Arnold as much as, if not more, than the next person, but think of his great string of movies/franchises from the 80s through the 90s- Conans, Commando, Predator, Running Man, Total Recall, Predator, Terminators, True Lies. That's a murderer's row- but people went to see Arnold because he was Arnold, not because of the subtle distinctions between his characters in Predator and Commando, or Running Man and Total Recall. Luckily, we don't have to struggle with it because Arnold was in franchises- including the qualifying Conan. Finally, that's part of the fun of working with rules. You get to really examine certain things; for example, Clint Eastwood couldn't qualify for his "Man With No Name" roles because those weren't Hollywood productions- there is a reason they are called spaghetti westerns. I ended up not picking James Bond because I felt that the franchise overwhelmed any particular actor's rendition (although I was sorely tempted to take Sean Connery). And so on. The one thing you can always guarantee here? 1. If you post a poll, people will argue with whatever the poll categories are. "You can't put me in your box!' 2. If you list categories for selection (like this) at least half the comments will reject them. It's almost like D&D and TTRPGs are filled with rules lawyers, or something. :) [/QUOTE]
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