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<blockquote data-quote="Elric" data-source="post: 4740429" data-attributes="member: 1139"><p>I think the reverse is true: giving set bonuses at certain levels is simpler in general than using newfangled feats to try to fix the math. You're already getting a +1 bonus on even levels, so now you have to add a few more +1s over your character's lifetime (though these +1s don't add to initiative/skills, even under my proposal above). However, I can see how adding (free) existing feats can be easier with something like WotC's Character builder than modifying the numbers directly. </p><p></p><p>As I said in your other thread, the Expertise feats are not a good way to give characters a bonus to hit. Even giving every character an Expertise feat for free at level 5 as you suggest in your other thread doesn't do the trick. Problems include: it doesn't apply to powers like a Dragonborn's Breath, characters with both an implement and weapon face a feat tax (and a character like a Swordmage-multiclass wizard-Wizard of the Spiral Tower faces an even larger tax). You could give every character three free Expertise feats at level 5; that would solve all "feat tax" problems, but it's rather awkward. </p><p></p><p>To get a smooth progression on FRW using free feats, you're going to need to give out a lot of free feats at different levels. Just giving characters epic feats from PH II for free at level 21 isn't going to cut it, and neither is free Paragon Defenses at level 11, plus free Robust Defenses/one Epic X feat at epic, as you suggest in the other thread. You'll end up with a huge spike in character power at level 21 from the free feats (and characters get the ability to take further Epic X feats), when you should be aiming for a more gradual progression.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Elric, post: 4740429, member: 1139"] I think the reverse is true: giving set bonuses at certain levels is simpler in general than using newfangled feats to try to fix the math. You're already getting a +1 bonus on even levels, so now you have to add a few more +1s over your character's lifetime (though these +1s don't add to initiative/skills, even under my proposal above). However, I can see how adding (free) existing feats can be easier with something like WotC's Character builder than modifying the numbers directly. As I said in your other thread, the Expertise feats are not a good way to give characters a bonus to hit. Even giving every character an Expertise feat for free at level 5 as you suggest in your other thread doesn't do the trick. Problems include: it doesn't apply to powers like a Dragonborn's Breath, characters with both an implement and weapon face a feat tax (and a character like a Swordmage-multiclass wizard-Wizard of the Spiral Tower faces an even larger tax). You could give every character three free Expertise feats at level 5; that would solve all "feat tax" problems, but it's rather awkward. To get a smooth progression on FRW using free feats, you're going to need to give out a lot of free feats at different levels. Just giving characters epic feats from PH II for free at level 21 isn't going to cut it, and neither is free Paragon Defenses at level 11, plus free Robust Defenses/one Epic X feat at epic, as you suggest in the other thread. You'll end up with a huge spike in character power at level 21 from the free feats (and characters get the ability to take further Epic X feats), when you should be aiming for a more gradual progression. [/QUOTE]
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