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<blockquote data-quote="overgeeked" data-source="post: 8851278" data-attributes="member: 86653"><p>I think they're fully aware of the first and have basically no conception of the second. That's why there are character options in almost every single book they've put out for 5E. Because character options sell books. With the exception of the MM, are there any books that don't have character options? Even the DMG does. Every module does. Every supplement does. Even if it's something as simple as a background or feat.</p><p></p><p>I disagree. They're selling to the players and hoping that referees can simply deal with it. I don't think it's the players who're burning out, it's the referees who have to keep up. The players want more and more options. They always will. It'll only become a problem of burn out for the players if we get back to 3X and 4E levels of product churn. This is especially true now that you have things like D&D Beyond where players can simply buy the character options from a book for a few bucks instead of buying the whole book at full price.</p><p></p><p>Unfortunately, yeah. The pendulum is swinging back to a locked down, rule-for-everything mode. I think that's going to backfire. The killer app of RPGs is the referee being able to make calls. Closed systems are stifling and less fun to play and run. The trouble with 5E is that it relied overmuch on referees being able to do basic design work for the game instead of making on-the-spot rulings to cover the occasional gap or shenanigans the players get up to.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="overgeeked, post: 8851278, member: 86653"] I think they're fully aware of the first and have basically no conception of the second. That's why there are character options in almost every single book they've put out for 5E. Because character options sell books. With the exception of the MM, are there any books that don't have character options? Even the DMG does. Every module does. Every supplement does. Even if it's something as simple as a background or feat. I disagree. They're selling to the players and hoping that referees can simply deal with it. I don't think it's the players who're burning out, it's the referees who have to keep up. The players want more and more options. They always will. It'll only become a problem of burn out for the players if we get back to 3X and 4E levels of product churn. This is especially true now that you have things like D&D Beyond where players can simply buy the character options from a book for a few bucks instead of buying the whole book at full price. Unfortunately, yeah. The pendulum is swinging back to a locked down, rule-for-everything mode. I think that's going to backfire. The killer app of RPGs is the referee being able to make calls. Closed systems are stifling and less fun to play and run. The trouble with 5E is that it relied overmuch on referees being able to do basic design work for the game instead of making on-the-spot rulings to cover the occasional gap or shenanigans the players get up to. [/QUOTE]
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