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<blockquote data-quote="Kahuna Burger" data-source="post: 1236742" data-attributes="member: 8439"><p>Bad idea, unless you meant that to only apply to the str and con stats. Only the physical cream of the crop survives. The brightest, and wisest will likely be dead. </p><p></p><p>I would take the normal spread for a city. Then kill off everyone with a con under 12. Yes, this will give you a smaller population, the spartans didn't have big numbers, they had tough cookies. Next make everyone with a str or con less than 13 a commoner. No level advancement to speak of. Out of what remains, give them all twice the xp for their age you normally would and fighter levels. Pick the feats that simulate a group fighting style and give everyone identical feats. </p><p></p><p>Spellcasters should be rare. By the law of averages, you've likely killed off the ones who could have advanced far in infancy or childhood, or at best relegated them to commoner status. If there are folks in your main army with a CHA of 13 or better, give tham a few sorcerer ranks, or possibly bard. </p><p></p><p>What you will have is a small but formidable group of specialists. They will be soldiers, and very good at it, but they will fight the one way they were taught and not have a lot of magical backup. They may or may not triumph against a force which uses its whole population and finds the roles each individual is suited for. Thats life.</p><p></p><p>If you wanted to update the idea of the spartans to include the value of magic, and fit it into the D&D gender balance in one fell swoop, I would put the women through a similarly intense clerical/sorcerer training process. Still remove anyone with a con under 10, but relegate those with both wis and cha under 13 to commoner status. Give the rest 1 1/2 XP from average and cleric or sorc ranks. Probably strength and war domains across the board. Stick with the idea of specialists who fight one way and do it well. </p><p></p><p>Thats the way I'd do it, but I'm not as enamored of the legend of the spartans as many and would play up their weaknesses as well as strengths.</p><p></p><p>Kahuna burger</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kahuna Burger, post: 1236742, member: 8439"] Bad idea, unless you meant that to only apply to the str and con stats. Only the physical cream of the crop survives. The brightest, and wisest will likely be dead. I would take the normal spread for a city. Then kill off everyone with a con under 12. Yes, this will give you a smaller population, the spartans didn't have big numbers, they had tough cookies. Next make everyone with a str or con less than 13 a commoner. No level advancement to speak of. Out of what remains, give them all twice the xp for their age you normally would and fighter levels. Pick the feats that simulate a group fighting style and give everyone identical feats. Spellcasters should be rare. By the law of averages, you've likely killed off the ones who could have advanced far in infancy or childhood, or at best relegated them to commoner status. If there are folks in your main army with a CHA of 13 or better, give tham a few sorcerer ranks, or possibly bard. What you will have is a small but formidable group of specialists. They will be soldiers, and very good at it, but they will fight the one way they were taught and not have a lot of magical backup. They may or may not triumph against a force which uses its whole population and finds the roles each individual is suited for. Thats life. If you wanted to update the idea of the spartans to include the value of magic, and fit it into the D&D gender balance in one fell swoop, I would put the women through a similarly intense clerical/sorcerer training process. Still remove anyone with a con under 10, but relegate those with both wis and cha under 13 to commoner status. Give the rest 1 1/2 XP from average and cleric or sorc ranks. Probably strength and war domains across the board. Stick with the idea of specialists who fight one way and do it well. Thats the way I'd do it, but I'm not as enamored of the legend of the spartans as many and would play up their weaknesses as well as strengths. Kahuna burger [/QUOTE]
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