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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 6145502" data-attributes="member: 57383"><p>Let's leave fussing about that for later, we've got plenty of Lycos for the time being.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The original monster has a hybrid form, the "Man-Rat", it's just looks more ratlike than manlike.</p><p></p><p>As for it being Man-Sized, remember that Dire Rats advance to being Medium size. I was thinking we just base our Ratwere's stats on a Dire Rat that's advanced to Medium sized.</p><p></p><p>Comparing the two:</p><p></p><p><strong>Normal Dire Rat:</strong> Small, Str 10, Dex 17, Con 12, Int 1, Wis 12, Cha 4</p><p><strong>Medium Dire Rat:</strong> Medium, Str 14, Dex 15, Con 14, Int 1, Wis 12, Cha 4</p><p><strong>SRD Wererat (Rat/Hybrid Form):</strong> Str 13, Dex 17, Con 14, Int 10, Wis 11, Cha 8</p><p></p><p>What I'd do is make it a 3 HD Magical Beast with Dex 17 and Con 16, that way its BAB (+3), average hit points (25), Fort (+6) and Ref (+6) saves are a close match to a Dire Rat that's advanced to 4 HD and become Medium-sized (BAB +3, 26 hp, Fort +6, Ref +6).</p><p></p><p>I've already whipped up a rough draft based on that assumption, which also gives it Iron Will as a bonus feat like standard Lycanthropes get, mainly so it has a +6 in its Will save too. Just 'cause having saves of +6, +6, +6 seems appropriate for a Chaotic Evil nasty. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devil.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":devil:" title="Devil :devil:" data-shortname=":devil:" /></p><p></p><p>I also fancied giving them a standard Rat's racial bonuses to skills rather than a Dire Rats, since they're better.</p><p></p><p>There's also the question of what weapons they're proficient in - even the "Lesser Wererats" that used to be dumb giant rats can use swords and daggers for some reason, so I guess they'll need to be proficient in those at least.</p><p></p><p>Anyhow, I'll post my Homebrew rough draft to see what you think.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 6145502, member: 57383"] Let's leave fussing about that for later, we've got plenty of Lycos for the time being. The original monster has a hybrid form, the "Man-Rat", it's just looks more ratlike than manlike. As for it being Man-Sized, remember that Dire Rats advance to being Medium size. I was thinking we just base our Ratwere's stats on a Dire Rat that's advanced to Medium sized. Comparing the two: [B]Normal Dire Rat:[/B] Small, Str 10, Dex 17, Con 12, Int 1, Wis 12, Cha 4 [B]Medium Dire Rat:[/B] Medium, Str 14, Dex 15, Con 14, Int 1, Wis 12, Cha 4 [B]SRD Wererat (Rat/Hybrid Form):[/B] Str 13, Dex 17, Con 14, Int 10, Wis 11, Cha 8 What I'd do is make it a 3 HD Magical Beast with Dex 17 and Con 16, that way its BAB (+3), average hit points (25), Fort (+6) and Ref (+6) saves are a close match to a Dire Rat that's advanced to 4 HD and become Medium-sized (BAB +3, 26 hp, Fort +6, Ref +6). I've already whipped up a rough draft based on that assumption, which also gives it Iron Will as a bonus feat like standard Lycanthropes get, mainly so it has a +6 in its Will save too. Just 'cause having saves of +6, +6, +6 seems appropriate for a Chaotic Evil nasty. :devil: I also fancied giving them a standard Rat's racial bonuses to skills rather than a Dire Rats, since they're better. There's also the question of what weapons they're proficient in - even the "Lesser Wererats" that used to be dumb giant rats can use swords and daggers for some reason, so I guess they'll need to be proficient in those at least. Anyhow, I'll post my Homebrew rough draft to see what you think. [/QUOTE]
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