Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Next
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
Twitch
YouTube
Facebook (EN Publishing)
Facebook (EN World)
Twitter
Instagram
TikTok
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Community
Hosted Forums
Creature Catalog Forums
General Monster Talk
Special Conversion Thread: Lycanthropes and their ilk
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 9171136" data-attributes="member: 57383"><p>Hmm, an example that includes some minimum drakanthrope ability modifiers and just a two-step size range might be better, such as:</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><em>Example:</em> A wyrmling bronze dragon is a Small dragon with Str 13, Dex 10, Con 13, Int 14, Wis 15, Cha 14 and +5 natural armor bonus; applying –10 or –11 comes to ability improvements of Str +8, Dex +0, Con +2, Int +4, Wis +4, Cha +4 for a wyrmling gold weredragon (note its Strength adjustment uses the true drakanathrope minimum of +8, not the Str +2 derived from Str 13 minus 10 or 11). A dwarf warrior is a Medium humanoid with Str 13, Dex 11, Con 14, Int 10, Wis 9, Cha 6. Therefore in default dragon form, a wyrmling bronze weredragon dwarf is a Medium creature with Str 21, Dex 11, Con 16, Int 14, Wis 13, Cha 10 and NA +5. If its dragon or hybrid form reduces in size to Small it has Str 17, Dex 11, Con 16 and NA +5.</p><p></p><p>Or maybe mix it up a bit and use a giant in the example:</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><em>Example:</em> A wyrmling red dragon is a Medium dragon with Str 17, Dex 10, Con 15, Int 10, Wis 11, Cha 10 and +6 natural armor bonus; applying –10 or –11 and a weredragon's minimum ability improvements gives it Str +8, Dex +0, Con +4, Int +2, Wis +2, Cha +2 for a wyrmling red weredragon (note that only its Constitution adjustment is better than the true drakanathrope minimum of +2). A fire giant is a Large giant with Str 31, Dex 9, Con 21, Int 10, Wis 14, Cha 11 and +8 natural armor. Therefore in default dragon form, a wyrmling red weredragon fire giant is a Large creature with Str 38, Dex 9, Con 23, Int 12, Wis 16, Cha 13 and NA +14. If its dragon or hybrid form reduces in size to Medium it has Str 30, Dex 9, Con 23 and NA +12.</p><p></p><p>Do you have a preference between those two?</p><p></p><p>I like the idea of a Gold Weredragon Gnome that's Large in dragon form and am toying with the idea of including it as a sample creature.</p><p></p><p>However, a young or very young gold weredragon would likely not be a mundane 1st level warrior but have a few levels in some character class, or maybe a fair few levels. Am thinking about using the "stock NPC stats" from the DMG to make a 5th or 10th level gnome weredragon.</p><p></p><p>For a chromatic weredragon, I'm tempted to have a giant, either elemental-themed giant like a white weredragon frost giant and the aforementioned red weredragon fire giant, or going a bit wild and having a Huge giant such as a silver weredragon cloud giant or a red or gold weredragon storm giant (while a red dragon would match the 3E storm giant's environment, earlier edition storm giants lived on any climate of mountains, cloud castles or underwater so were like gold dragons in environment).</p><p></p><p>That said, I would also like to give the green dragon some love and do a green weredragon high elf, wood elf or forest gnome.</p><p></p><p>Guess we could do both if I'm feeling energetic.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 9171136, member: 57383"] Hmm, an example that includes some minimum drakanthrope ability modifiers and just a two-step size range might be better, such as: [indent][I]Example:[/I] A wyrmling bronze dragon is a Small dragon with Str 13, Dex 10, Con 13, Int 14, Wis 15, Cha 14 and +5 natural armor bonus; applying –10 or –11 comes to ability improvements of Str +8, Dex +0, Con +2, Int +4, Wis +4, Cha +4 for a wyrmling gold weredragon (note its Strength adjustment uses the true drakanathrope minimum of +8, not the Str +2 derived from Str 13 minus 10 or 11). A dwarf warrior is a Medium humanoid with Str 13, Dex 11, Con 14, Int 10, Wis 9, Cha 6. Therefore in default dragon form, a wyrmling bronze weredragon dwarf is a Medium creature with Str 21, Dex 11, Con 16, Int 14, Wis 13, Cha 10 and NA +5. If its dragon or hybrid form reduces in size to Small it has Str 17, Dex 11, Con 16 and NA +5.[/indent] Or maybe mix it up a bit and use a giant in the example: [indent][I]Example:[/I] A wyrmling red dragon is a Medium dragon with Str 17, Dex 10, Con 15, Int 10, Wis 11, Cha 10 and +6 natural armor bonus; applying –10 or –11 and a weredragon's minimum ability improvements gives it Str +8, Dex +0, Con +4, Int +2, Wis +2, Cha +2 for a wyrmling red weredragon (note that only its Constitution adjustment is better than the true drakanathrope minimum of +2). A fire giant is a Large giant with Str 31, Dex 9, Con 21, Int 10, Wis 14, Cha 11 and +8 natural armor. Therefore in default dragon form, a wyrmling red weredragon fire giant is a Large creature with Str 38, Dex 9, Con 23, Int 12, Wis 16, Cha 13 and NA +14. If its dragon or hybrid form reduces in size to Medium it has Str 30, Dex 9, Con 23 and NA +12.[/indent] Do you have a preference between those two? I like the idea of a Gold Weredragon Gnome that's Large in dragon form and am toying with the idea of including it as a sample creature. However, a young or very young gold weredragon would likely not be a mundane 1st level warrior but have a few levels in some character class, or maybe a fair few levels. Am thinking about using the "stock NPC stats" from the DMG to make a 5th or 10th level gnome weredragon. For a chromatic weredragon, I'm tempted to have a giant, either elemental-themed giant like a white weredragon frost giant and the aforementioned red weredragon fire giant, or going a bit wild and having a Huge giant such as a silver weredragon cloud giant or a red or gold weredragon storm giant (while a red dragon would match the 3E storm giant's environment, earlier edition storm giants lived on any climate of mountains, cloud castles or underwater so were like gold dragons in environment). That said, I would also like to give the green dragon some love and do a green weredragon high elf, wood elf or forest gnome. Guess we could do both if I'm feeling energetic. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
Hosted Forums
Creature Catalog Forums
General Monster Talk
Special Conversion Thread: Lycanthropes and their ilk
Top