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<blockquote data-quote="MwaO" data-source="post: 7024142" data-attributes="member: 12749"><p>I think that's a hindsight 20/20 kind of view, but not actually correct. 4e had the following unforgivable problems in marketing:</p><p>No SRD for 4e+restrictive OGL. That made it extremely difficult to write 3rd party material. That's extending even now, making it complex to clone 4e and run a Pathfinder equivalent.</p><p></p><p>Told off Paizo without giving them a revenue stream.</p><p></p><p>Bad initial adventures. Particularly Living Forgotten Realms with a huge oversupply of substandard material.</p><p></p><p>Promised the moon on digital, something WotC's always bad at and should never do. Even if the <a href="http://kotaku.com/5032443/xbox-developer-dead-in-murder-suicide" target="_blank">murder-suicide by head of digital</a> hadn't happened, probably would have gone wrong somehow.</p><p></p><p>-----</p><p></p><p>Basically, WotC placed Paizo in what they thought was a box - give up Dragon/Dungeon and sell 4e products. But instead, they gave them a ton of incentives to do 3.5 material. Even though companies could see the need for good 4e adventures, they were afraid to write them. And there was Paizo putting out 3.5 compatible material.</p><p></p><p>Maybe they still end up going to 5e at some point. But they forced a competitor into existence who would have been happily writing adventures and crunch for them otherwise. Cut off that air supply for 3.5 and very few people leave 4e to go back.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MwaO, post: 7024142, member: 12749"] I think that's a hindsight 20/20 kind of view, but not actually correct. 4e had the following unforgivable problems in marketing: No SRD for 4e+restrictive OGL. That made it extremely difficult to write 3rd party material. That's extending even now, making it complex to clone 4e and run a Pathfinder equivalent. Told off Paizo without giving them a revenue stream. Bad initial adventures. Particularly Living Forgotten Realms with a huge oversupply of substandard material. Promised the moon on digital, something WotC's always bad at and should never do. Even if the [URL="http://kotaku.com/5032443/xbox-developer-dead-in-murder-suicide"]murder-suicide by head of digital[/URL] hadn't happened, probably would have gone wrong somehow. ----- Basically, WotC placed Paizo in what they thought was a box - give up Dragon/Dungeon and sell 4e products. But instead, they gave them a ton of incentives to do 3.5 material. Even though companies could see the need for good 4e adventures, they were afraid to write them. And there was Paizo putting out 3.5 compatible material. Maybe they still end up going to 5e at some point. But they forced a competitor into existence who would have been happily writing adventures and crunch for them otherwise. Cut off that air supply for 3.5 and very few people leave 4e to go back. [/QUOTE]
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