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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 4149989" data-attributes="member: 1656"><p>Consider the text of Dispel Magic:</p><p></p><p><em>If the object that you target is a magic item, you make a dispel check against the item’s caster level. If you succeed, all the item’s magical properties are suppressed for 1d4 rounds, after which the item recovers on its own. <strong>A suppressed item becomes nonmagical for the duration of the effect.</strong> A magic item’s physical properties are unchanged: A suppressed magic sword is still a sword (a masterwork sword, in fact).</em></p><p></p><p>The last line is very similar to the wording in AMF:</p><p><em>Furthermore, while a magic sword does not function magically within the area, it is still a sword (and a masterwork sword at that).</em></p><p></p><p>I don't think there's any argument that a magic sword suppressed by a targeted Dispel Magic is subject to Shatter; the spell text states unambiguously that the item <em>becomes nonmagical</em> for the duration of the effect, and 'nonmagical' is Shatter's requirement.</p><p></p><p>The fact that AMF notes that a magic sword in an AMF is "still a sword, and a masterwork sword at that" argues to me that it is in the same state as the suppressed magic sword - "still a sword - a masterwork sword, in fact"... that is to say, masterwork, but at present nonmagical.</p><p></p><p>-Hyp.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 4149989, member: 1656"] Consider the text of Dispel Magic: [i]If the object that you target is a magic item, you make a dispel check against the item’s caster level. If you succeed, all the item’s magical properties are suppressed for 1d4 rounds, after which the item recovers on its own. [b]A suppressed item becomes nonmagical for the duration of the effect.[/b] A magic item’s physical properties are unchanged: A suppressed magic sword is still a sword (a masterwork sword, in fact).[/i] The last line is very similar to the wording in AMF: [i]Furthermore, while a magic sword does not function magically within the area, it is still a sword (and a masterwork sword at that).[/i] I don't think there's any argument that a magic sword suppressed by a targeted Dispel Magic is subject to Shatter; the spell text states unambiguously that the item [i]becomes nonmagical[/i] for the duration of the effect, and 'nonmagical' is Shatter's requirement. The fact that AMF notes that a magic sword in an AMF is "still a sword, and a masterwork sword at that" argues to me that it is in the same state as the suppressed magic sword - "still a sword - a masterwork sword, in fact"... that is to say, masterwork, but at present nonmagical. -Hyp. [/QUOTE]
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