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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 6402753" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>Chromatic Orb vs. Witch Bolt. How much damage is done on average by the end of each round (i.e. total damage listed in the columns, so column 2 illustrates the damage from round 1 plus the damage from round 2). In the case of Chromatic Orb, cast Chromatic Orb in round one and Fire Bolt in later rounds. In the case of Witch Bolt, cast Witch Bolt in round one and if it misses, cast Fire Bolt in later rounds.</p><p></p><p>[code]</p><p>AC Round 1 Round 2 Round 3 Round 4 Round 1 Round 2 Round 3 Round 4</p><p>10 11.475 16.150 20.825 25.500 05.525 12.050 18.575 25.100</p><p>11 10.800 15.200 19.600 24.000 05.200 11.675 18.150 [b][u]24.625[/u][/b]</p><p>12 10.125 14.250 18.375 22.500 04.875 11.300 17.725 [b][u]24.150[/u][/b]</p><p>13 09.450 13.300 17.150 21.000 04.550 10.925 [b][u]17.300[/u][/b] [b][u]23.675[/u][/b]</p><p>14 08.775 12.350 15.925 19.500 04.225 10.550 [b][u]16.875[/u][/b] [b][u]23.200[/u][/b]</p><p>15 08.100 11.400 14.700 18.000 03.900 10.175 [b][u]16.450[/u][/b] [b][u]22.725[/u][/b]</p><p>16 07.425 10.450 13.475 16.500 03.575 09.800 [b][u]16.025[/u][/b] [b][u]22.250[/u][/b]</p><p>17 06.750 09.500 12.250 15.000 03.250 09.425 [b][u]15.600[/u][/b] [b][u]21.775[/u][/b]</p><p>18 06.075 08.550 11.025 13.500 02.925 [b][u]09.050[/u][/b] [b][u]15.175[/u][/b] [b][u]21.300[/u][/b]</p><p>[/code]</p><p></p><p>Casting Witch Bolt is competitive with casting Chromatic Orb with regard to DPR for higher AC foes if the caster can get to two rounds, and generally stronger if the caster can get to three rounds.</p><p></p><p>Granted, if the foe dies or the wizard loses concentration or the foe moves away, then this changes. Then again, the point of using Witch Bolt is to use it in scenarios favorable for its use.</p><p></p><p>But mathematically speaking, Witch Bolt can be competitive with Chromatic Orb.</p><p></p><p>Casting it in a second level slot is also competitive with casting Chromatic Orb in a second level slot:</p><p></p><p>[code]</p><p>AC Round 1 Round 2 Round 3 Round 4 Round 1 Round 2 Round 3 Round 4</p><p>10 15.300 19.975 24.650 29.325 11.050 17.575 24.100 [b][u]30.625[/u][/b]</p><p>11 14.400 18.800 23.200 27.600 10.400 16.875 [b][u]23.350[/u][/b] [b][u]29.825[/u][/b]</p><p>12 13.500 17.625 21.750 25.875 09.750 16.175 [b][u]22.600[/u][/b] [b][u]29.025[/u][/b]</p><p>13 12.600 16.450 20.300 24.150 09.100 15.475 [b][u]21.850[/u][/b] [b][u]28.225[/u][/b]</p><p>14 11.700 15.275 18.850 22.425 08.450 14.775 [b][u]21.100[/u][/b] [b][u]27.425[/u][/b]</p><p>15 10.800 14.100 17.400 20.700 07.800 14.075 [b][u]20.350[/u][/b] [b][u]26.625[/u][/b]</p><p>16 09.900 12.925 15.950 18.975 07.150 [b][u]13.375[/u][/b] [b][u]19.600[/u][/b] [b][u]25.825[/u][/b]</p><p>17 09.000 11.750 14.500 17.250 06.500 [b][u]12.675[/u][/b] [b][u]18.850[/u][/b] [b][u]25.025[/u][/b]</p><p>18 08.100 10.575 13.050 15.525 05.850 [b][u]11.975[/u][/b] [b][u]18.100[/u][/b] [b][u]24.225[/u][/b]</p><p>[/code]</p><p></p><p></p><p>At level 5, the story changes:</p><p></p><p>[code]</p><p>AC Round 1 Round 2 Round 3 Round 4 Round 1 Round 2 Round 3 Round 4</p><p>10 12.150 22.050 31.950 41.850 05.850 13.800 21.750 29.700</p><p>11 11.475 20.825 30.175 39.525 05.525 13.700 21.875 30.050</p><p>12 10.800 19.600 28.400 37.200 05.200 13.600 22.000 30.400</p><p>13 10.125 18.375 26.625 34.875 04.875 13.500 22.125 30.750</p><p>14 09.450 17.150 24.850 32.550 04.550 13.400 22.250 31.100</p><p>15 08.775 15.925 23.075 30.225 04.225 13.300 22.375 [b][u]31.450[/u][/b]</p><p>16 08.100 14.700 21.300 27.900 03.900 13.200 [b][u]22.500[/u][/b] [b][u]31.800[/u][/b]</p><p>17 07.425 13.475 19.525 25.575 03.575 13.100 [b][u]22.625[/u][/b] [b][u]32.150[/u][/b]</p><p>18 06.750 12.250 17.750 23.250 03.250 [b][u]13.000[/u][/b] [b][u]22.750[/u][/b] [b][u]32.500[/u][/b]</p><p>[/code]</p><p></p><p>At 5th level due to the fact that Fire Bolt gets more potent, it's only real high ACs and 3 rounds or more where Witch Bolt is competitive.</p><p></p><p></p><p>All in all, Witch Bolt is decent against higher AC foes at levels less than 5.</p><p></p><p>I do think that Witch Bolt should be errata-ed to give it a little more umph, but it is not crazy bad at lower levels against high AC foes.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 6402753, member: 2011"] Chromatic Orb vs. Witch Bolt. How much damage is done on average by the end of each round (i.e. total damage listed in the columns, so column 2 illustrates the damage from round 1 plus the damage from round 2). In the case of Chromatic Orb, cast Chromatic Orb in round one and Fire Bolt in later rounds. In the case of Witch Bolt, cast Witch Bolt in round one and if it misses, cast Fire Bolt in later rounds. [code] AC Round 1 Round 2 Round 3 Round 4 Round 1 Round 2 Round 3 Round 4 10 11.475 16.150 20.825 25.500 05.525 12.050 18.575 25.100 11 10.800 15.200 19.600 24.000 05.200 11.675 18.150 [b][u]24.625[/u][/b] 12 10.125 14.250 18.375 22.500 04.875 11.300 17.725 [b][u]24.150[/u][/b] 13 09.450 13.300 17.150 21.000 04.550 10.925 [b][u]17.300[/u][/b] [b][u]23.675[/u][/b] 14 08.775 12.350 15.925 19.500 04.225 10.550 [b][u]16.875[/u][/b] [b][u]23.200[/u][/b] 15 08.100 11.400 14.700 18.000 03.900 10.175 [b][u]16.450[/u][/b] [b][u]22.725[/u][/b] 16 07.425 10.450 13.475 16.500 03.575 09.800 [b][u]16.025[/u][/b] [b][u]22.250[/u][/b] 17 06.750 09.500 12.250 15.000 03.250 09.425 [b][u]15.600[/u][/b] [b][u]21.775[/u][/b] 18 06.075 08.550 11.025 13.500 02.925 [b][u]09.050[/u][/b] [b][u]15.175[/u][/b] [b][u]21.300[/u][/b] [/code] Casting Witch Bolt is competitive with casting Chromatic Orb with regard to DPR for higher AC foes if the caster can get to two rounds, and generally stronger if the caster can get to three rounds. Granted, if the foe dies or the wizard loses concentration or the foe moves away, then this changes. Then again, the point of using Witch Bolt is to use it in scenarios favorable for its use. But mathematically speaking, Witch Bolt can be competitive with Chromatic Orb. Casting it in a second level slot is also competitive with casting Chromatic Orb in a second level slot: [code] AC Round 1 Round 2 Round 3 Round 4 Round 1 Round 2 Round 3 Round 4 10 15.300 19.975 24.650 29.325 11.050 17.575 24.100 [b][u]30.625[/u][/b] 11 14.400 18.800 23.200 27.600 10.400 16.875 [b][u]23.350[/u][/b] [b][u]29.825[/u][/b] 12 13.500 17.625 21.750 25.875 09.750 16.175 [b][u]22.600[/u][/b] [b][u]29.025[/u][/b] 13 12.600 16.450 20.300 24.150 09.100 15.475 [b][u]21.850[/u][/b] [b][u]28.225[/u][/b] 14 11.700 15.275 18.850 22.425 08.450 14.775 [b][u]21.100[/u][/b] [b][u]27.425[/u][/b] 15 10.800 14.100 17.400 20.700 07.800 14.075 [b][u]20.350[/u][/b] [b][u]26.625[/u][/b] 16 09.900 12.925 15.950 18.975 07.150 [b][u]13.375[/u][/b] [b][u]19.600[/u][/b] [b][u]25.825[/u][/b] 17 09.000 11.750 14.500 17.250 06.500 [b][u]12.675[/u][/b] [b][u]18.850[/u][/b] [b][u]25.025[/u][/b] 18 08.100 10.575 13.050 15.525 05.850 [b][u]11.975[/u][/b] [b][u]18.100[/u][/b] [b][u]24.225[/u][/b] [/code] At level 5, the story changes: [code] AC Round 1 Round 2 Round 3 Round 4 Round 1 Round 2 Round 3 Round 4 10 12.150 22.050 31.950 41.850 05.850 13.800 21.750 29.700 11 11.475 20.825 30.175 39.525 05.525 13.700 21.875 30.050 12 10.800 19.600 28.400 37.200 05.200 13.600 22.000 30.400 13 10.125 18.375 26.625 34.875 04.875 13.500 22.125 30.750 14 09.450 17.150 24.850 32.550 04.550 13.400 22.250 31.100 15 08.775 15.925 23.075 30.225 04.225 13.300 22.375 [b][u]31.450[/u][/b] 16 08.100 14.700 21.300 27.900 03.900 13.200 [b][u]22.500[/u][/b] [b][u]31.800[/u][/b] 17 07.425 13.475 19.525 25.575 03.575 13.100 [b][u]22.625[/u][/b] [b][u]32.150[/u][/b] 18 06.750 12.250 17.750 23.250 03.250 [b][u]13.000[/u][/b] [b][u]22.750[/u][/b] [b][u]32.500[/u][/b] [/code] At 5th level due to the fact that Fire Bolt gets more potent, it's only real high ACs and 3 rounds or more where Witch Bolt is competitive. All in all, Witch Bolt is decent against higher AC foes at levels less than 5. I do think that Witch Bolt should be errata-ed to give it a little more umph, but it is not crazy bad at lower levels against high AC foes. [/QUOTE]
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