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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 8389328" data-attributes="member: 177"><p>I think Deadpool is an overdone fake-edgy gimmick, so...</p><p></p><p>And there's a bit of a different between not being a paragon of virtue, and shooting at people <em>for littering</em>.</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]143157[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Namor is not clearly presented as a hero - he's often the villain of the piece.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yep. Not a fan of Venom, either. I'm pretty consistent. </p><p></p><p>And, as to Venom - the symbiote was introduced in 1984. The Eddie Brock version of the character showed up fully in 1988. For several years he appeared strictly as a villain. He was given his own comic in 1993, in which they tried to transition him to an anti-hero. After several stories in that line, it was cancelled in 1997, in significant part because Marvel's Editor-in-Chief at the time (Bob Harras) <em>was not comfortable with the character having his own title</em>.</p><p></p><p>So, let us not pretend that Venom-as-hero is somehow unquestionable, when their own editors aren't always behind it..</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 8389328, member: 177"] I think Deadpool is an overdone fake-edgy gimmick, so... And there's a bit of a different between not being a paragon of virtue, and shooting at people [I]for littering[/I]. [ATTACH type="full"]143157[/ATTACH] Namor is not clearly presented as a hero - he's often the villain of the piece. Yep. Not a fan of Venom, either. I'm pretty consistent. And, as to Venom - the symbiote was introduced in 1984. The Eddie Brock version of the character showed up fully in 1988. For several years he appeared strictly as a villain. He was given his own comic in 1993, in which they tried to transition him to an anti-hero. After several stories in that line, it was cancelled in 1997, in significant part because Marvel's Editor-in-Chief at the time (Bob Harras) [I]was not comfortable with the character having his own title[/I]. So, let us not pretend that Venom-as-hero is somehow unquestionable, when their own editors aren't always behind it.. [/QUOTE]
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