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<blockquote data-quote="Piratecat" data-source="post: 1506971" data-attributes="member: 2"><p><span style="color: Orange"><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong>Judgment of Match 2-4: <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1501479&postcount=498" target="_blank">Zhaneel</a> vs. <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1501715&postcount=505" target="_blank">RangerWickett.</a></strong></span></span></p><p></p><p><strong><u>Maldur:</u></strong></p><p></p><p></p><p>Hmmm.</p><p></p><p>Zhaneel's story is great, Indian myth and once again a weird agency. Then RangerWickett's story, Great stuff, with demons and armies and underdark shenanigans.</p><p></p><p>My vote is for Zhaneel. It is a great story, and I think RangerWickett dropped the ball with two things: The comment about the pictures being wrong, and that very hasty ending.</p><p></p><p>----------</p><p></p><p><strong><u>Arwink:</u></strong></p><p></p><p>Zhaneel – Vritra’s Return</p><p></p><p>Zhaneel toys with notions of mythology, warping them into a smart action story that runs a little wild. I like the bones of the story, but in fleshing it out it appears to have grown in strange and odd ways. The tension is a little uneven, and the intricacies of the society and mythology that lead Devang through the story are occasionally a little too much for my taste.</p><p></p><p>On the other hand, Zhaneel uses a mythology that doesn’t see enough use in fantasy stories (although Kali gets a good deal in horror tales for some reason), and she crafts a world that I would like to see more of should she find the time to trim the story and hone it through further drafting.</p><p></p><p>RangerWickett – Untitled</p><p></p><p>RangerWickett produces a stylish world, but in many respects it becomes less interesting when framed as a dark-elf world as suggested in his introduction. One of the things that immediately struck me is how effective the story could be as a simple fantasy tale, freed of any implications of underdark or drow, and there was little enough to indicate it was otherwise in the story that I barely would have noticed the connection if he hadn’t pointed it out.</p><p></p><p>Rodinn serves as an interesting character, and the dynamics of his team are interesting to read. In many ways, it’s unfortunate that the story doesn’t reach its conclusion naturally, but such are the constraints of Ceramic DM <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Judgment</p><p></p><p>I give the round to Zhaneel on the strength of the mythological choices that dominate her story and the complete nature of the narrative. While RangerWickett’s story is interesting and has many strengths, it also suffers slightly from running out of time.</p><p></p><p>----------</p><p></p><p><strong><u>Piratecat:</u></strong></p><p></p><p>Zhaneel's story is a good example that taking risks in storywriting can sometimes pay off. Setting the tale in Indian mythology, she draws on centuries of rich culture and suggests that there is a lot more going on in the Godly interactions than meets the eye. This is something of a cultural shorthand, and it allows her the luxury of not having to go into detail on the extensive history.</p><p></p><p>The story itself might have been leaner and more effective if it were pared down a bit. I'd like to see Devang's insouciance play a role in his eventual victory, thus making the beginning development more relevant. I'd also like to see more of the focus on Devang's ending confrontation with the Gods, and less on his recruitment and training. Right now the story feels slightly unbalanced, never quite rising to its potential emotional peak. It's still very good, though; a clever concept, a sneaky ending, an interesting protagonist, a nice plot.</p><p></p><p>It surprises me that as someone disrespectful of authority, Devang never figures out that he was played for a fool. </p><p></p><p>Photo use was about average. Devang's introduction was handled nicely, and I like how she tied together the boar's head and the river of blood. The rope bridge was a throwaway, and "Listen" - the dragon - was interpreted literally. No real surprises, but no disappointments (other than the rope bridge) either.</p><p></p><p>- o -</p><p></p><p>RangerWickett gives us a conflicted protagonist, a great dragon encounter, and something of a coming-of-age story. It suffers somewhat from fantasy-name-syndrome ("Guenhavesti") that distracts the reader from the plot, but as far as it goes the story covers some interesting territory. Unfortunately, the story really suffers from not being finished. It's questionable whether the outlined ending would be truly effective; it's difficult not to suffer from anticlimax after the dragon encounter, and I'm not sure if Rodinn's "treason" would carry enough emotional weight to compensate. I'd like to read a version that has the ending fleshed out, as I think RW could do really interesting things with it.</p><p></p><p>I have no real worries with the interpretation of the photos as being in the Underdark. It's slightly irregular, but that's something I'm willing to let slip if the story supports them. Did it? I'd say yes. The boar photo was used well, as was the bridge. (Note that the boy in the photo is carrying just the boar's head.) The river of blood was also well introduced, and the dragon played a major and effective story role. I dislike the use of "conformity" largely because it was shoehorned into the summarized ending. Overall, the photos were used quite well.</p><p></p><p>Interestingly enough, I think that this story would have more impact without the baggage of the drow. Like Zhaneel's use of the Indian pantheon, though, I can see why it was used: a shorthand so that the invaders cruelty wouldn't have to be explained further.</p><p></p><p>- o -</p><p></p><p>My judgment is for Zhaneel. The use of mythological themes and a complex protagonist added nice depth to her story, pushing it past a good but uncompleted story from RangerWickett. </p><p></p><p></p><p>----------</p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>FINAL JUDGMENT:</strong> 3 out of 3 for Zhaneel, who will go on to the third round.</p><p></p><p>Matchups will be announced later this evening. Congratulations, all, on hard-fought matches!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Piratecat, post: 1506971, member: 2"] [COLOR=Orange][size=3][b]Judgment of Match 2-4: [url=http://www.enworld.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1501479&postcount=498]Zhaneel[/url] vs. [url=http://www.enworld.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1501715&postcount=505]RangerWickett.[/url][/b][/size][/COLOR][size=3][b][/b][/size] [b][u]Maldur:[/u][/b] Hmmm. Zhaneel's story is great, Indian myth and once again a weird agency. Then RangerWickett's story, Great stuff, with demons and armies and underdark shenanigans. My vote is for Zhaneel. It is a great story, and I think RangerWickett dropped the ball with two things: The comment about the pictures being wrong, and that very hasty ending. ---------- [b][u]Arwink:[/u][/b] Zhaneel – Vritra’s Return Zhaneel toys with notions of mythology, warping them into a smart action story that runs a little wild. I like the bones of the story, but in fleshing it out it appears to have grown in strange and odd ways. The tension is a little uneven, and the intricacies of the society and mythology that lead Devang through the story are occasionally a little too much for my taste. On the other hand, Zhaneel uses a mythology that doesn’t see enough use in fantasy stories (although Kali gets a good deal in horror tales for some reason), and she crafts a world that I would like to see more of should she find the time to trim the story and hone it through further drafting. RangerWickett – Untitled RangerWickett produces a stylish world, but in many respects it becomes less interesting when framed as a dark-elf world as suggested in his introduction. One of the things that immediately struck me is how effective the story could be as a simple fantasy tale, freed of any implications of underdark or drow, and there was little enough to indicate it was otherwise in the story that I barely would have noticed the connection if he hadn’t pointed it out. Rodinn serves as an interesting character, and the dynamics of his team are interesting to read. In many ways, it’s unfortunate that the story doesn’t reach its conclusion naturally, but such are the constraints of Ceramic DM :) Judgment I give the round to Zhaneel on the strength of the mythological choices that dominate her story and the complete nature of the narrative. While RangerWickett’s story is interesting and has many strengths, it also suffers slightly from running out of time. ---------- [b][u]Piratecat:[/u][/b] Zhaneel's story is a good example that taking risks in storywriting can sometimes pay off. Setting the tale in Indian mythology, she draws on centuries of rich culture and suggests that there is a lot more going on in the Godly interactions than meets the eye. This is something of a cultural shorthand, and it allows her the luxury of not having to go into detail on the extensive history. The story itself might have been leaner and more effective if it were pared down a bit. I'd like to see Devang's insouciance play a role in his eventual victory, thus making the beginning development more relevant. I'd also like to see more of the focus on Devang's ending confrontation with the Gods, and less on his recruitment and training. Right now the story feels slightly unbalanced, never quite rising to its potential emotional peak. It's still very good, though; a clever concept, a sneaky ending, an interesting protagonist, a nice plot. It surprises me that as someone disrespectful of authority, Devang never figures out that he was played for a fool. Photo use was about average. Devang's introduction was handled nicely, and I like how she tied together the boar's head and the river of blood. The rope bridge was a throwaway, and "Listen" - the dragon - was interpreted literally. No real surprises, but no disappointments (other than the rope bridge) either. - o - RangerWickett gives us a conflicted protagonist, a great dragon encounter, and something of a coming-of-age story. It suffers somewhat from fantasy-name-syndrome ("Guenhavesti") that distracts the reader from the plot, but as far as it goes the story covers some interesting territory. Unfortunately, the story really suffers from not being finished. It's questionable whether the outlined ending would be truly effective; it's difficult not to suffer from anticlimax after the dragon encounter, and I'm not sure if Rodinn's "treason" would carry enough emotional weight to compensate. I'd like to read a version that has the ending fleshed out, as I think RW could do really interesting things with it. I have no real worries with the interpretation of the photos as being in the Underdark. It's slightly irregular, but that's something I'm willing to let slip if the story supports them. Did it? I'd say yes. The boar photo was used well, as was the bridge. (Note that the boy in the photo is carrying just the boar's head.) The river of blood was also well introduced, and the dragon played a major and effective story role. I dislike the use of "conformity" largely because it was shoehorned into the summarized ending. Overall, the photos were used quite well. Interestingly enough, I think that this story would have more impact without the baggage of the drow. Like Zhaneel's use of the Indian pantheon, though, I can see why it was used: a shorthand so that the invaders cruelty wouldn't have to be explained further. - o - My judgment is for Zhaneel. The use of mythological themes and a complex protagonist added nice depth to her story, pushing it past a good but uncompleted story from RangerWickett. ---------- [b]FINAL JUDGMENT:[/B] 3 out of 3 for Zhaneel, who will go on to the third round. Matchups will be announced later this evening. Congratulations, all, on hard-fought matches! [/QUOTE]
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