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<blockquote data-quote="Rackhir" data-source="post: 604760" data-attributes="member: 149"><p>On the other hand, you don't get SR against the elemental effects on magic weapons which have spells with saving throws as their base spell.</p><p></p><p>They also affect creatures which are not normally subject to fort save effects, such as Golems and Undead.</p><p></p><p>Furthermore, Arrows of slaying are already fairly limited.</p><p></p><p>1) They are only for specific creatures. So your chances of having one for a specific creature are fairly low. Unless you have had substantial time to prepare.</p><p></p><p>2) Against anything worthwhile (say Cr 10+) already have a DC low enough (20 basic, 23 greater) that the creatures have at minimum a 50-50 chance of making the fort save. Against Dragons (surely the classic target) it gets worse as even a young dragon has a fort save bonus of +11 to +13 and they are only about Cr 7 Creatures. So they are far from a sure kill.</p><p></p><p>3) They can be negated totally by Death Ward.</p><p></p><p>PS. Isn't it annoying when someone makes one of the points you were going to make in another post while you are writing yours and you don't find out until after you've finished it?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rackhir, post: 604760, member: 149"] On the other hand, you don't get SR against the elemental effects on magic weapons which have spells with saving throws as their base spell. They also affect creatures which are not normally subject to fort save effects, such as Golems and Undead. Furthermore, Arrows of slaying are already fairly limited. 1) They are only for specific creatures. So your chances of having one for a specific creature are fairly low. Unless you have had substantial time to prepare. 2) Against anything worthwhile (say Cr 10+) already have a DC low enough (20 basic, 23 greater) that the creatures have at minimum a 50-50 chance of making the fort save. Against Dragons (surely the classic target) it gets worse as even a young dragon has a fort save bonus of +11 to +13 and they are only about Cr 7 Creatures. So they are far from a sure kill. 3) They can be negated totally by Death Ward. PS. Isn't it annoying when someone makes one of the points you were going to make in another post while you are writing yours and you don't find out until after you've finished it? [/QUOTE]
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